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World War II is part of the human extermination
strategy of the system to which we are subject.

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And here it is clear that the intention is to provoke.

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I feel very strange when I have the feeling that peoples,
people don't even understand what they actually control.

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The crucial thing is that we are not
governed by Merz, Scholz or Merkel.

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Because if we don't know what we should be
working against, we obviously have zero chance of

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any real improvement in terms of people and peace.

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Kla.TV is in conversation with Christoph Hörstel today. Hello.

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Hello, thank you very much.

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Mr. Hörstel, an interview on YouTube a
few days or weeks ago made quite a stir.

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A former KSK employee/member, i.e. from the Special
Forces Command, says that the war was decided long ago.

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He is referring to the conflict with Russia, but also to
the spreading world conflagration - you could just say that.

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He paints two scenarios, a
worst-case scenario and a best-case scenario.

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But in my eyes, both would be a total disaster for humanity.

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Now, Mr. Hörstel, based on your really decades of
experience and your worldwide contacts, how do you see it?

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Is there a really serious doomsday mood?
Or what does that look like in your eyes?

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Yes, that's a serious question. That was a conversation
between this ex-army soldier and the interviewer Marc Friedrich.

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And the worst-case scenario - i.e. a possibility of how
things could develop in the worst conceivable way or in the

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best conceivable way - both ended the same way, namely in war.

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And in fact there are quite clear - how should
we put it - positions here that should have

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such and such an impact - that has to be said.

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The criticism I have is that the good comrade said
that in summer civil war or some other kind of war here.

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So summer 2026.

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2026, this summer.

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And I just want to try to pull this tooth out.

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This will not happen unless, of course, we get such a rapid
economic deterioration here due to a complete blockade of the

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Strait of Hormuz on the Persian Gulf that famine breaks out here.

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Quite frankly, the events do not cover this, they did not cover
it two or three weeks ago when this interview

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took place that I am criticizing here, because
such difficult things were asserted so lightly.

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Some people panicked. People
around me also asked me what I thought.

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And that's when I said: "So, the situation is
serious. I divided it into different levels.

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I said that in the first stage, you just know that bad things are
coming and you look around to see how you could deal with them.

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But now we are one step further. And to put
numbers behind it, the Pentagon has a famous think tank.

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This is the famous Pentagon think tank.
Pentagon, the US Department of Defense.

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This think tank is called the Rand
Corporation. And there is a document that states that

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the war against Russia is to start in 2029.

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And it is certainly no coincidence that this
coincides with the end of Donald Trump's

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term of office, and that is a serious target.

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And now it comes: How is all this connected?

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And here you have to understand the following:
World War II is part of the human extermination

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strategy of the system to which we are subject.

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Kla.TV has made two films, documentaries, which I
don't think you should watch politics at all without them.

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That is the basis of the foundation.
That is Rothschild 1 and Rothschild 2.

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And that is simply so important, because
otherwise we don't understand the system we live in.

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If you're still interested, you could still
try to get it - it's not in print at the

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moment and you have to get hold of it somewhere.

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I say this simply because we have to try to get this
book out to people. It's about the Rothschild family.

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People may claim here that something is anti-Semitic, but if
it is in fact a necessary political criticism of the times, it

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is completely beyond discussion, whether Jewish faith or not.

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It is also perfectly clear from history, from the history of
Israel's origins, from the history of the origins of Zionism,

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that Rothschild was at work here, that these
are all machinations and that Israel has, how

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shall we say, a European colonialist background.

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Seven European colonial powers got together - you can read about
it in the so-called Bannerman Commission, the British were the

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ones who pulled the strings, this thing, it started in London -
and found that they urgently needed a divisive force in the

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Arab world in order to divide the Arab world according to
the beautiful old motto that everyone knows, divide and rule.

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This is the real, true story of Israel's
origins, it's all there in writing, but of

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course not in our lying media, yes, that's clear.

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At this point you can simply see the following: Trump's political
support base - namely Zionist billionaires in the USA... you can

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see that with Douglas McGregor, he says that in every second or
third interview - he's there to help the Middle East, so to

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speak, the Near and Middle East in the sense of Israel - I want
to say, or how should I put it - to help this small, super-armed

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country with allegedly 100 or 200 warheads - I see that the
number is much higher, it was already 300 and 500 20

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or 30 years ago, and they probably haven't simply
shut down their nuclear warhead production since then.

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So the numbers are grossly wrong here, this is
Israel's situation, this is where he should support.

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In his first term of office, he did some important things.

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He recognized Jerusalem as the capital, the whole of Jerusalem
for Israel - all against existing UN resolutions, of course - and

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accommodated Israel in such a way that the American political
scene already thought at the time that this was far too

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much and completely unusual for the USA and that they
did not normally do this, but it was not yet so alarming.

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And interestingly enough, on Ukrainian soil, Trump has had
oversight through his office, so to speak, that Ukraine has been

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militarily upgraded along NATO armaments and that
at least five air bases have been built in Ukraine

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for aggressive purposes against Russia, of course.

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So this is Trump's first term in office. But then they
didn't think he should continue, so the election was rigged.

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That it was falsified is clear, it's
not a conspiracy theory, it's provable.

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By the way, elections in the USA are almost always rigged.

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The USA is one of the countries that has 80-90% computerized
elections, which means that you don't cast your vote

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on a piece of paper and hand it in - because that's
very easy to control - but you type it into the computer.

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And in every election so far I have ...

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This can be manipulated.

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Yes, absolutely fully manipulable. And the
manipulation software is already installed in the computers.

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That's delicious, I've also written about
it at length, it's all there in a nutshell.

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So he lost the election. And what did Joe Biden do?

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He started the war against Russia from Ukraine, so to speak.

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He helped to ensure that this became
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then issued his famous Decree 117 of March 24, 21.

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In short, Ukraine was heading for war
against Russia, which is of course unwinnable.

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You only have to listen to General Kujat and the others
are all crazy. That is clearly on the table of the House.

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General Kujat was the former head of the
Bundeswehr, Inspector General. These are the important facts.

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And it was during Joe Biden's term of office
that Hamas launched its - shall I say -

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self-defense raid, which doesn't make it any better.

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Attacking civilians is always a crime.

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In general, of course, robberies are not okay unless
there are certain - how shall I put it - dispositions.

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And in the case of Palestine, it looked like Saudi Arabia was six
weeks away from signing one of these blasphemous Abraham treaties

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- because Abraham is a holy word, you don't use it for the
betrayal of fellow believers, which is of

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course included in the treaty - where Muslims are
supposed to betray their brothers in Palestine.

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And this is very topical again right
now, we can come back to it later.

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In any case, at that time Saudi Arabia was six weeks away from
signing, and Hamas knew: Then we will simply fall into

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nothingness, we will be slowly massacred, marginalized,
pushed out of the country, and then Palestine will be finished.

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And that's why they launched this raid,
to gain hostages, not to kill people.

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The next general lie of our media is that, oh God -
now I can't remember this number today - 1,300 (or so)

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. People have been murdered by Hamas. That is wrong.

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Most of them, almost all of them, were murdered by the Israeli
army with the famous Hannibal order, which is not

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written down anywhere, but which says that no
Israeli may fall into the hands of Muslim opponents.

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And otherwise the shooting is sharp.

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And this doctrine normally applied to
the Israeli army, of course, to the army.

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The fact that this was now also applied to civilians was
part of the plan. This attack was well known in Israel.

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Just check the sources, if necessary also have a
look at Christoph Hörstel's website on the subject.

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And there you can clearly see that the electronic surveillance
unit 8,200 of Israeli military

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intelligence had delivered a complete script of this
Hamas attack to Netanyahu 14 days earlier.

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So much for the big surprise topic.

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And of course on the day of the raid, 90% of Israeli
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You can't just do something like
that. There has to be a plan behind it.

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And in the meantime, this has gone as far as the
wife of the Israeli army chief, who says that my

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husband left the house so unusually early that day.

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So things are just open during the day.

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And now we are in a situation where Trump comes along, declares
that he is pro-Russia - I think he means that seriously by

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Trump's standards - and on February 28 of this
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time in the middle of scheduled negotiations.

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It was always the case that the next round of
negotiations was scheduled for a few days later.

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This is the situation: now the fighting in Ukraine is on
the wane and things are turning up a gear against Iran!

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Now Trump is occupied with the job - how shall we put it
- which is why he should have this office at this time.

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Because of his Zionist supporters?

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Yes, exactly. So, small, small problem.

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Iran is much better armed than people in America imagined.

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Okay.

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He is also much more determined.

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They have also fallen for their own propaganda, which
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This is clearly not the case.

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Every day that the Lord God allows to grow, millions of Iranians
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It's so powerful, you can't even imagine it, actually.

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No country in the world has ever done anything like this.

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And it shows the world very clearly, so to speak: If you
think you can break us up, then you've got another thing coming.

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So divide and rule doesn't work there.

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You can definitely say that, it doesn't work there.

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For a long time there was always this reporting: the people are
dissatisfied, there are demonstrations on the streets, they have

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to be violently suppressed by the mullah regime, and the people
don't actually want the mullah regime and are actually

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rather pro-American, want to have real democracy again, want to
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That was always the tenor we were told, wasn't it?

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Yes, that's exactly it. And then we realized - at least the
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so, which made it mainstream - that the CIA and
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And then they took up arms very quickly.

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And here we also have clear evidence
that shots were fired at both sides.

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We know this from the Maidan in Ukraine, as well as from (Al)
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And you could say that none of that really worked.

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In fact, there is - I now know this first-hand from my friends,
some of whom have complained bitterly to me

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about corruption - and here's something
interesting, this is also an experiment for me.

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Three or four weeks ago, I was invited to a live
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always together with foreigners, with other foreigners.

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I got to know some very nice people, very,
very smart guys who are also well informed.

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And then I said for the first time three or four
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also - how should one put it - justified complaints.

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But it is clear that in times of danger, people
stand together and stand by their government, and

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Iran cannot be divided by enemies from outside.

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Strong.

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That was live there. And then I thought, oh,
this is my last interview. But I was wrong.

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So now I've had another interview invitation in the past week.

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And then I followed up and said that now, when the bombs are not
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the government to smooth things over at home and
address the justified complaints of the population.

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And then I said a few more things, but the important thing
is, I thought, so this is certainly my last interview. No.

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The very last thing!

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The Tehran Times reports. And
yesterday was the detailed interview.

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Nine questions with detailed answers.
Will be printed at the weekend, they say.

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And I have an invitation to write for the
Tehran Times and all that sort of thing.

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I'm just telling you this to say that this
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Okay.

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And the system is not just any mullah system.

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This is an interesting and multi-layered democracy and
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Regime.

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Some kind of controlled system.

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Mr. Hörstel, did I understand that correctly?

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Our leading media make us believe that Iran is some kind
of dusty, Islamic, totally antiquated mullah dictatorship.

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And now you say it's an interesting democracy.

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Can you please elaborate on that a little more?
Would perhaps be interesting for our viewers?

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So it really is complex.

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So the Supreme Leader of the Revolution - which was Ali
Khamenei for a long time and now it is his son Mojtaba

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Khamenei - is elected by the so-called Council of Experts.

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There are about 88 actual clerics and they are elected by the
people for eight years. So a double electoral term, so to speak.

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While the country's president - now the former surgeon
Peseschkian - is directly elected for a four-year term.

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And every damn minister has to be confirmed
by parliament. So it's not all that easy.

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And this is a system of checks and balances, so to speak, in
which - how shall we put it - the supreme revolutionary leader

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and the president work together, but which has
a parliamentary basis, i.e. is in principle

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based on the vote of the sovereign, the people.

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Very interesting.

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...because individual presidential
candidates can also be rejected.

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There is a little interesting background to this.

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In the last election, former President
Ahmadinejad wanted to run again - but was rejected.

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And now - perhaps also as an intrigue, we don't know
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Trump had contact with the man and wanted to appoint him.

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However, he was known as a great
opponent of the US and a hardliner.

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So there are a lot of things going on here
that we don't know exactly what to make of.

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But it is clear that we cannot simply dismiss
the Iranian system as some kind of mullahocracy.

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Exactly, yes.

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That's the word we read in our media.

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Yes, interesting.

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If we look at this and see that the very first war aim of "Usrael"
- let me say, namely the USA and Israel - was regime change.

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We actually bombed away the then Supreme Leader
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Ali Khamenei, on February 28 at the crack of dawn.

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Once that was successful, the Americans got
on board too. This is what it looks like.

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This did not lead to any instability in the system.

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Even when they bombed away the defense ministers and
this and that high-ranking man, it didn't help at all.

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Army leadership bombed away, individual
branches of the armed forces bombed away.

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Nothing has actually worked, and we heard, well I heard
from Iranian circles, that the whole system is four-tiered.

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In other words, they would have to get rid of four supreme
revolutionary leaders and four presidents in succession.

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The president wasn't dumped at all. It's also clear why not?

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Because this is an absolutely approachable, sensible man who came
into government with reform wishes - which are

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of course urgently overdue - and has of course
not yet been able to implement them properly.

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Let's see how things continue. But now, and
this is where it gets interesting, we have

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a situation where the fighting is subsiding.

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Israel is doing what it can, murdering 31 people
in Lebanon at the last count, or something similar.

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But overall, the fighting with Iran is dying down.

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As they say, Iran is currently handling a third, a quarter of the
ships, namely over 30 instead of 120 to 140 through the Strait

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of Hormuz, without the Americans being able to do anything.

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In return for payment according to the rules set by
Iran. In other words, this is not a full blockade at all.

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And what is very interesting is that, of course, a battle
is now raging in the background in terms of negotiations.

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To what extent will Iran have the say
over the Strait of Hormuz and the Gulf?

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And now that Iran has clearly won this war according to the most
important Americans, it will be very difficult to establish in the

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renegotiation that this is not the case and to somehow install
the Americans in the Gulf where they have been kicked out.

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There is a nice map. On it you can see eleven
American military positions - they're all broken.

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And some of the soldiers on it are accommodated
in the hotels in the area, which has already led

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to Iran attacking the hotels during the fighting.

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And then, of course, there was a huge media outcry in the
West. Look, they're attacking civilian targets. That's clear.

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But if the fighting in the Middle East subsides - and that's
where we get to know the system, and that's something we have to

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remember, given that all governments in the West behave like
enemies of their peoples, there's no other way to put it - then

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the system will say, okay, then we'll follow suit in Ukraine.

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And what happened? May 22 in Starobelsk, in
Lugansk, that a boarding school with a school

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building and dormitory building was attacked.

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And not once, but exactly three times.

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In other words, the students first fled to the
first floor when the area was attacked and were

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then sent to their beds and caught there at night.

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And therefore 21 dead students, over 40 injured, terrible.

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A correspondent, a Russian, writes: "I was at the scene
within minutes and heard the students still screaming.

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And then the screams were stifled
because no one was there to help".

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And here the Tagesschau does not manage to report these facts
and says, yes, yes, this is some kind of Russian act of revenge.

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Why are they attacking Kiev now? The
ARD office is damaged by the blast wave.

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Of course, this was not a bomb target, but here everything is
screaming "Russian terror", while the government and the media

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are practicing iron silence regarding this terrorist attack.

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And here it is clear that the
intention is to provoke, to provoke Russia.

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And if Russia then resorts to an act of revenge, the
Europeans should be urged to become more involved again.

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And it was precisely this system that worked.

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So the German, let me say Foreign Minister, an
unspeakable figure, has demanded 90 billion more for Kiev.

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A country that is probably the most corrupt country in
the world, so we know that Selensky alone has already

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snapped up a billion or two. We can probably assume that.

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And the rest of the company also needs a few billion,
because they are going out on a limb to permanently

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send their country to a senseless sacrifice, so to speak.

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So the system is ramping up the war effort in
Ukraine, while it's winding down in the Middle East.

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This is obviously a means of keeping the
population in fear and under pressure.

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And that's how I see the statements of this
KSK man, which are intended to create panic.

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And then you no longer care about the next
plandemic to be installed here, based on the virus lie.

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And they tried everything. I say, first
it was monkeypox and then it was Hanta.

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And now there is Ebola and everything
is unproven and everything is a lie.

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And all the suspected cases come
from the Democratic Republic of Congo.

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And all you can say is that a lot of money is being paid,
a lot of bribes are being paid and these people are poor.

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Governments have nothing with which they can shape policy.

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And at such a level we are then raped, so to speak.

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That is such an important point.
The war level should be maintained.

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And if things go down a bit in the Middle East,
then they will increase that in Ukraine. And

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that means both wars must be stopped immediately!

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Governments that are somehow involved in this,
including the German government, for example, should be jailed.

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And we fail to introduce sanctions against
Israel and have these disgusting word exercises,

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which are known to be so well received in Israel.

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If no sanction follows, it is an
encouragement to continue. That's how they treat it.

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And the whole system knows that. That's how it is.

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But how can it even get to the point
where we are involved in such a scenario?

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Iran war, Ukraine war somehow - and there's nothing we can
do. Everything comes like this, hits us like rain and snow.

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We will then only be encouraged to invest billions more and to
make our young people fit for war, our whole country fit for war.

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Who is behind it all? Who are the string-pullers
in the background? How do you see it, Mr. Hörstel?

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The crucial thing is that we are not governed by Merz,
Scholz or Merkel, but that they are mere puppets, so to speak.

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That's what the wonderful American
pop musician Frank Zappa once said.

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Politics is the entertainment department of the arms industry.

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Did he really once say Frank Zappa?

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That's what he said.

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And when I just wanted to quote that as a news presenter
at Mitteldeutscher Rundfunk, I was forbidden to do so.

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That's one of my early experiences
with system boundaries here with us.

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But Mr. Zappa died relatively
early. Is there perhaps a connection?

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I can't judge. Yes, but we know that artists have
their own lives, so to speak, and drugs play a big role.

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And to what extent this is the case...

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All right. Good.

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I actually don't know here, I haven't investigated it
either. But this was certainly a man who had insight.

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Incidentally, someone who also had great insight and
also told confidants who I was then able to speak

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to by chance, who told me this, was Michael Jackson.

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He also knew exactly how corrupt this
system is. Now there's a great movie about him.

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The first one, there's probably another one
coming. I watched it with all the children.

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I didn't think the performer could dance
anywhere near as well as Michael Jackson.

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He really was an incredible artist.

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In short, we are governed here by the American Deep State.

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We Germans are not even allowed to have our own Deep State.

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We're familiar with this in France now. There are
a few billionaires running the show, so to speak.

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But everything strictly along Rothschild lines. And that is
precisely the point where I have to say that, in

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my opinion, the two Rothschild broadcasts on Kla.TV
are part of the foundation of political education.

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Very creditably, Kla.TV makes sure and
states that this system, the Rothschild system,

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is based on the so-called banking privilege.

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This means that banks are allowed to invent money,
out of the blue. This is called a fiat money economy.

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That's a very official word, you can google it, that's how it's
used, meaning that banks create money and take interest on it.

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This insane corruption, it's always a
system, a trained monkey can make money out of it.

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If you can do it yourself, that can be...

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Out of nowhere.

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I put a small printing press in the basement, so to speak,
and from then on I no longer have any cash register problems.

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That's roughly how it works, to put it casually.

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In other words, as long as we don't take this privilege
away from the banks, we will become the system that

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governs us from the outside, through a small clique of people.

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The whole Rothschild system is involved. Tillmann
Knechtel wrote about it well in his Rothschild book.

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As long as we leave them in this power and in this money
creation and interest power, we nations have no chance.

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Yes.

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And now comes what I find so
horribly alarming as a party founder.

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Because that was part of our party program right from the
start: abolishing the debt money system and interest rates.

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That is very simple. The state
doesn't even need to ask banks for credit.

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It can give itself credit via a truly
independent Bundesbank through a political decision that

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maintains stability and must pay zero interest.

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In concrete terms, this means that we will save
between 40 billion and in future up to over 70 billion

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euros a year in interest that we pay to the banks.

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Not only Germany.

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Any country could become independent, right?

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That's how it is. If every country decides to abolish the banking
privilege, if only one country decides to do so or if it is as

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clever as Russia and says the banks get 10% of the
credit market here and we do the rest ourselves, that is also

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our proposal, then this system can slowly be abolished.

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You take away its strength and its incredible power,
and if we don't do that, we will sacrifice en masse.

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In this respect, the KSK interview that we
discussed at the beginning is not completely off the mark.

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We just need to know that a wonderful director called Kuby
once started a campaign, took the trouble to write to over 180

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parties in Germany and said, don't we want to work together?

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I replied and said, yes, I think that's a great idea.

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I used the entire mailing list that was open and asked
which of the parties contacted here is prepared to

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abolish the banking privilege, i.e. debt money and interest?

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Yes.

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The answer is very shocking and also very clear.

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Which was then?

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Null.

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Nobody wanted to write the topic on their banner?

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Nobody even wanted to answer an e-mail on this topic.

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So that's really quite intense. We are now in an
explosive political situation here in Germany.

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Practically as a war supporter of Israel and as a supporter of
Ukraine and moving against our best interests in both cases,

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we will definitely fall victim to the Ukraine war, if, as the
Pentagon says, it goes down to business from 2029 after Trump.

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The war will come to Germany, no question about
it. And what does that mean in concrete terms?

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We have a new major opposition party that has
apparently reached 30 percent of voters and is

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pretending that things are getting better now.

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But this party has a party leader, Dr. Alice Weidel, I'll use her
name, sorry, I'm not .... She has spent her entire professional

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life either directly at Goldman Sachs, namely at the
beginning, or in the sphere of influence of this major US bank.

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Okay.

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And that in turn means that we will definitely not get a
fight against the cartel mafia system that rules us from there.

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That means the root of the problem is not being addressed?

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It is not being addressed. The unbelievable thing for me is
that now Kla.TV has gone forward with these two contributions.

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With the Rothschild?

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With the Rothschild contributions, one and two. And
has made it crystal clear where the rabbit is going.

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And I am now advertising this here and on my
channels, because that is the basis for any improvement.

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And I just want to say that as a party founder and
national chairman, I would like to see competition in this area.

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I feel very strange when I have the feeling that
people don't even understand what actually controls them.

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And months ago, we are completely perverted as a population
because we don't want to know who rules us in fact and truth.

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Yes, I understand.

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Who governs us.

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And that is so crucial that we get there, because if we don't
know who we are supposed to be working against,

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so to speak, we obviously have zero chance of
any real improvement in terms of people and peace.

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And we carry this on God's soil.

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I understand that very well now.

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In other words, this scenario, this worst-case or best-case
scenario, no matter what it looks like, can only be stopped if

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this banking system, this interest system, this
creation of money out of nothing is stopped, if we get

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out of it. And otherwise it can't be stopped at all.

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The wheel keeps turning, doesn't it?

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Practically every day that we live and buy any
commodity, we shovel about 50 to 70 percent of the

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value of that commodity into the pockets of banks.

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Because that's the credit debt we're
servicing, so to speak. That's how high it is.

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When you buy a house, 70, 80% are interest costs. That's absurd.

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People bend over backwards every day for this kind of thing.

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Of course, you can't simply switch that off
politically. There are still legacy obligations and the like.

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But the lever can be turned and the system
can be slowly, how shall we say, redirected,

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as Putin has done in various places in Russia.

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Not all of them, that's interesting. However.

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We are all deeply involved in this system,
but without a stop to governments having to

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borrow money from banks - how perverse is that?

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If we understand that this is perverse - I
think there is only one professor in Germany who

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teaches this, a Mr. Peukert, written with EU.

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If we don't figure this out and change course, we
are guaranteed to be lost. That is not a question.

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All right. Thank you very much for this
really very enlightening all-round report.

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We really went into depth, although we could go on
talking for hours. We could go into much more depth.

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But it also gives an essential picture of where
we are, what is currently going on, what

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would be a step towards escaping the whole dilemma.

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I am very happy that we were able to talk.

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Thank you very much.

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Mr. Hörstel, thank you and see you next time.

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See you next time. Thank you.

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