WEBVTT 00:00.080 --> 00:05.824 And what shocked and impressed me back then was when she said that the street where she lives is known as 00:05.824 --> 00:08.540 “Widows’ Street” because so many men had died there. 00:08.540 --> 00:13.751 And he explained this using the example of a cell tower that is practically right in their neighborhood and has 00:13.751 --> 00:16.600 been broadcasting signals throughout the entire street. 00:16.600 --> 00:25.926 The Viennese researcher had succeeded in convincing U.S. judges that non-thermal biological effects can damage our genes. 00:25.926 --> 00:31.209 But why does the public want 5G? Because it’s being sold to them as something great—that it means they can watch movies faster. 00:31.209 --> 00:33.935 And why does the public want 6G soon? 00:33.935 --> 00:37.809 Because it's being sold to her again as something new, something even better. 00:37.809 --> 00:45.745 And based on this understanding of biological rhythms, it was perfectly clear to me that smartphones and these technological 00:45.745 --> 00:54.013 devices disrupt children’s biological rhythms and rob them of much of the joy of life they should actually be experiencing. 00:54.013 --> 01:01.060 Investigative filmmaker Klaus Scheidsteger has been taking a critical look at the mobile phone industry for many years. 01:01.060 --> 01:06.496 In his 2024 documentary “The Digital Dilemma,” renowned scientists, doctors, building 01:06.496 --> 01:10.460 biologists, and those affected share their perspectives. 01:10.460 --> 01:15.051 In his latest film, *Die Witwenstraße*, Scheidsteger explores, among other things, the 01:15.051 --> 01:18.752 question: How many coincidences can a street handle? 01:18.752 --> 01:21.483 Why the title “Die Witwenstraße”? 01:21.483 --> 01:29.280 A cell phone tower emits radiation along the entire street, and a striking number of women on this street have become widows. 01:29.280 --> 01:32.649 That’s how the title “Die Witwenstraße” came about. 01:32.649 --> 01:38.240 The film depicts numerous personal stories and poses an uncomfortable question: 01:38.240 --> 01:48.064 What happens when people notice changes in their health over the course of years but receive no explanation or answers? 01:48.064 --> 01:54.476 “Die Witwenstraße” is a compelling report on those affected, the background of the issue, and the question of how 01:54.476 --> 01:58.663 we deal with the potential risks of modern technologies. 01:58.663 --> 02:06.824 On April 30, 2026, Klaus Scheidsteger’s new film was screened for the first time in Switzerland as part of a 02:06.824 --> 02:11.896 special event in Thun, followed by a panel discussion. 02:11.896 --> 02:16.816 The interest shown has made it clear: This issue resonates with people and affects many of them. 02:16.816 --> 02:21.890 This report takes us to where discussions often end—to the people themselves. 02:21.890 --> 02:25.716 There has been a cluster of serious illnesses and deaths on a residential street. 02:25.716 --> 02:28.096 Family members are starting to ask questions. 02:28.096 --> 02:34.223 They look for connections, talk to experts, and in doing so encounter a tension between personal 02:34.223 --> 02:38.510 experience, scientific assessment, and public debate. 02:38.510 --> 02:47.893 This 30-minute documentary reveals the background story behind the mobile phone study on “Athermal Biological Effects of 02:47.893 --> 02:54.696 Long-Term Exposure to Low-Intensity Radiofrequency Electromagnetic Fields” (ATHEM3) and 02:54.696 --> 02:59.264 provides insight into the scientific work. 02:59.264 --> 03:04.077 “Die Witwenstraße” depicts this search for answers to the questions that arise—calmly, 03:04.077 --> 03:07.264 objectively, and without jumping to conclusions. 03:07.264 --> 03:11.357 Now watch the documentary “The Widows’ Street.” 03:27.770 --> 03:35.116 We built a house here in Lichtenbusch 30 years ago. 03:35.116 --> 03:45.167 My husband is a dentist, and I'm a doctor. We built up our practice, had three children over the 03:45.167 --> 03:56.403 course of eight years, have a beautiful garden, and —things were going well for us at first. 04:04.250 --> 04:08.803 Does it affect people? Some say yes, others say no. 04:08.803 --> 04:13.940 Yes, and I came to the conclusion that, yes, it has a big impact on people's health. 04:13.940 --> 04:16.933 And suddenly, the pieces of the puzzle fell into place. 04:16.933 --> 04:20.680 I was wondering, why do so many people on our street have epileptic seizures? 04:20.680 --> 04:24.160 Why Do We Have So Much Cancer? 04:27.640 --> 04:30.693 He said, "No, I'm not going down to the basement." 04:30.693 --> 04:33.411 I went to get my measuring device while that was happening. 04:33.411 --> 04:37.926 The radiation level was over 20,000 again in our kitchen. Way, way, way too high. 04:37.926 --> 04:45.753 Before that, it was at 0.02. That means it had just gone up significantly. 04:45.753 --> 04:50.953 And my husband said, “You know, I don’t want to live like this anymore.” 04:50.953 --> 04:58.720 At that moment, the epileptic seizure began. It was followed by a brain hemorrhage. 04:58.720 --> 05:06.336 And the next day, he was admitted to the hospital. He didn't even realize it. 05:06.336 --> 05:17.223 And three months later, completely paralyzed, in a vegetative state, on a ventilator, and on dialysis, he passed away. 05:17.223 --> 05:20.416 And that's why, thanks again to all of you: 05:20.416 --> 05:29.470 We'll keep going, because there are so many people—whose stories are about people who need to be protected. 05:45.839 --> 05:52.700 A little over a year after Dr. Roger Krout’s death, a major mobile communications conference took place in Mainz. 05:52.700 --> 05:57.740 An exquisite event centered on the then-emerging 5G debate, featuring the crème de 05:57.740 --> 06:01.232 la crème of mobile communications research. 06:01.232 --> 06:07.837 My comment at the time was: “Moving moments, the highest level of scientific expertise 06:07.837 --> 06:12.023 from around the world, and an engaged audience.” 06:12.023 --> 06:25.620 With a mix of lectures, panel discussions, workshops, exhibition booths, and ongoing discussions, one highlight followed another. 06:25.620 --> 06:34.741 The Mainz Symposium, held October 4–6, 2019, at the historic Electoral Palace, brought to light the concerns of the 06:34.741 --> 06:40.920 international scientific community in many different ways. 06:42.900 --> 06:49.766 Ignorance and cynicism are often the order of the day, as the example of Dr. Monika Krout shows. 06:49.766 --> 07:00.045 My own town prohibits me from making public what I see, because doing so would jeopardize property values. 07:00.045 --> 07:11.172 And the transmission tower—we filed a lawsuit against Telekom's transmission tower while my husband was still alive. 07:11.172 --> 07:24.226 In her ruling, the judge wrote: “Even if the plaintiff’s life is in danger, there is no illegality.” 07:24.226 --> 07:35.371 And that was a transmission tower that hadn’t had a permit to operate at that location for 25 years, that had installed the 07:35.371 --> 07:47.241 antennas two meters too low, that had mounted the wrong antennas, and—thanks to a building biologist who is also here in the room—I 07:47.241 --> 07:53.212 then took additional measurements with a frequency analyzer. 07:53.212 --> 07:59.887 More frequencies had been modeled than were permitted. 08:01.860 --> 08:10.293 The conference in Mainz provided an ideal opportunity to exchange ideas with leading scientists from around the world. 08:10.293 --> 08:18.820 The personal remarks made by Dr. Monika Krout, the doctor from Witwenstraße, had had an impact. 08:18.820 --> 08:24.760 Yes, it was an event organized by the Kompetenzinitiative in Mainz on the topic of 5G mobile communications. 08:24.760 --> 08:31.296 And Dr. Monika Krout had shared her own personal situation there—either after the event or toward the end 08:31.296 --> 08:35.093 of it—explaining that she had recently become a widow. 08:35.093 --> 08:41.296 And what shocked and impressed me back then was when she said that the street where she lives is called 08:41.296 --> 08:44.443 “Widows’ Street” because so many men have died there. 08:44.443 --> 08:49.676 And he illustrated and explained this using a cell tower that is practically in their neighborhood and has 08:49.676 --> 08:53.056 been broadcasting signals throughout the entire street. 08:53.056 --> 09:00.350 After the event, we met with a large group of people in a separate room and discussed this issue. 09:00.350 --> 09:08.618 And as I thought about it, the idea began to take shape that if you were to make that claim, you’d actually have to conduct 09:08.618 --> 09:12.810 a scientific study to find out why so many of these men died. 09:12.810 --> 09:18.369 And so, essentially under your direction and thanks to your suggestions, the idea arose to 09:18.369 --> 09:23.488 turn the whole thing into a research project. 09:23.488 --> 09:28.880 Cell phones and health—a topic that has always been controversial. 09:28.880 --> 09:31.296 So, we need to take action. 09:31.296 --> 09:38.230 Reliable facts provided by a team of scientists made up of the best experts. 09:38.230 --> 09:45.656 I was able to recruit cancer researcher Prof. Dr. Wilhelm Mosgöller from MedUni Vienna to serve as project director. 09:45.656 --> 09:56.720 The new study was named ATHEM3 following the successful validation of the ATHEM1 and ATHEM2 studies conducted by Prof. Mosgöller. 09:56.720 --> 10:06.185 The Viennese researcher succeeded in convincing U.S. judges that non-thermal biological effects can damage our genes. 10:06.185 --> 10:18.998 ATHEM1 and ATHEM2 have passed quality control in an American class-action lawsuit, so to speak. 10:18.998 --> 10:32.910 The ATHEM1 and ATHEM2 projects have received a positive evaluation from a U.S. federal judge on the Supreme Court in Washington. 10:32.910 --> 10:40.096 And I think there are very few scientists who can say that about their projects. 10:40.096 --> 10:49.129 To make a long story short: The ATHEM3 project once again brings together an interdisciplinary team 10:49.129 --> 10:53.896 in which many specialists are doing their very best. 10:53.896 --> 11:05.656 So we wanted to specifically eliminate any trace of amateurism , which is a recurring problem in these fields of research. 11:09.983 --> 11:17.476 Thanks to Prof. Mosgöller's efforts, we were able to recruit cell biologist Prof. Igor Belyaev. 11:17.476 --> 11:21.196 He is also a key witness for the prosecution in the United States. 11:21.196 --> 11:29.463 For many years, Prof. Igor Belyaev has been calling for a revision of the current limits for consumer protection. 11:29.463 --> 11:36.072 He is regarded worldwide as a highly respected expert. 11:36.072 --> 11:54.429 I was a member of the EMF Working Group within the European Academy of Environmental Medicine, which developed the safety 11:54.429 --> 12:04.060 limits for exposure to low-frequency electromagnetic fields. 12:04.060 --> 12:18.916 The limits we have proposed are significantly lower than those accepted in most European countries. 12:18.916 --> 12:33.608 Well, I believe that the current ICNIRP limits are too high and should be significantly lowered. 12:33.608 --> 12:42.136 - Just as we proposed to the European Academy of Environmental Medicine. 12:42.136 --> 12:47.136 The so-called protective agencies operate according to outdated guidelines. 12:47.136 --> 12:50.390 The metrology technician on the team knows all about it. 12:50.390 --> 12:59.660 Every day, people who attribute their health problems to ever-increasing radiation exposure call on him. 13:01.160 --> 13:07.016 The number of people with health problems is clearly on the rise. 13:07.016 --> 13:10.710 This is especially true when 5G transmitters are turned on. 13:10.710 --> 13:21.716 And 5G technology was put into operation without first conducting a technology impact assessment regarding health issues. 13:21.716 --> 13:30.941 Back in the 3G era, the TNO study from the Netherlands caused quite a stir when it was found that one-tenth of the 13:30.941 --> 13:40.440 radiation intensity of UMTS was sufficient to cause the same health problems and cognitive effects as GSM . 13:40.440 --> 13:42.533 People didn't heed the warning back then. 13:42.533 --> 13:47.510 They then conducted a counter-experiment—of course, using different frequencies, different intensities, 13:47.510 --> 13:51.933 and different people—so that everything was calmed down: the audience, the general public. 13:51.933 --> 13:56.728 And then 4G came along, and once again there have been calls to actually investigate 13:56.728 --> 13:59.493 what health effects this technology might have. 13:59.493 --> 14:05.060 It wasn't carried out either. And with 5G, it's even more problematic because even more people are affected. 14:05.060 --> 14:10.336 And there were, after all, many cities in Europe that initially said, “Moratorium!”—We want to find out what’s going on first. 14:10.336 --> 14:14.503 But I think all these moratoriums have simply been "shelved" in the meantime. 14:14.503 --> 14:18.383 There was a lobby group that simply claimed there were no health problems. 14:18.383 --> 14:24.538 And the politicians—who, after all, aren't medical professionals, and in this case may not even be technical 14:24.538 --> 14:29.863 experts capable of understanding it—eventually gave in, saying, "Okay, the public wants it." 14:29.863 --> 14:33.032 But why does the public want 5G? Because they're being sold on the idea that it's a great 14:33.032 --> 14:35.150 thing, that it means faster streaming of movies. 14:35.150 --> 14:38.221 And why does the public want 6G soon? 14:38.221 --> 14:44.192 Because it's being sold to her again as something new, something even better. 14:44.192 --> 14:50.434 Once again, thanks to the efforts of the program director, Prof. Mosgöller, we were able to secure the participation of one 14:50.434 --> 14:54.163 of the pioneers of modern heart rate variability measurement. 14:54.163 --> 14:59.095 For many years, I was a professor of physiology at the Medical University of Graz, 14:59.095 --> 15:03.149 specializing in chronobiology—that is, biological rhythms. 15:03.149 --> 15:11.385 And based on this understanding of biological rhythms, it was perfectly clear to me that smartphones and these technological 15:11.385 --> 15:20.256 devices disrupt children’s biological rhythms and rob them of much of the joy of life they should actually be experiencing. 15:20.256 --> 15:27.100 Hiring Professor Moser was a smart move, because he has a lot to offer. 15:27.100 --> 15:31.859 So, two of these jackets have been sent into space. 15:31.859 --> 15:39.459 We have been working with the Russian space agency since 1991 and have conducted measurements first on an 15:39.459 --> 15:43.892 Austrian cosmonaut and then on ten Russian cosmonauts. 15:43.892 --> 15:52.585 In fact, this jacket is capable of measuring the very same bodily rhythms that we use in the ATHEM project. 15:52.585 --> 16:02.423 And the jacket was used to gather comprehensive information about the cosmonaut's health. 16:02.423 --> 16:07.630 And the exciting thing was that the Russians were very enthusiastic about the results. 16:07.630 --> 16:16.652 Because they say that in medicine, illness is usually what’s measured, but we were focusing on health, and our measurement 16:16.652 --> 16:23.085 methods were able to reflect the cosmonauts’ health—which is why the Russians then used 16:23.085 --> 16:26.660 them to assess the health of these cosmonauts. 16:26.660 --> 16:29.078 Because cosmonauts have to be healthy. 16:29.078 --> 16:35.740 If they get sick, you can't just call a doctor, and there are very few doctors in space. 16:38.420 --> 16:46.360 I'm sure everyone is familiar with the indomitable Gallic village and its successful “David versus Goliath” battle. 16:46.360 --> 16:55.868 The struggle for scientific recognition also seems to be one of those cases. In the case of ATHEM3, they needed a village that, 16:55.868 --> 17:01.483 so to speak, met the necessary neutral scientific criteria. 17:01.483 --> 17:09.199 The challenge with ATHEM3 was to find an area—a region, a geographic region—where two comparable groups 17:09.199 --> 17:16.640 live side by side, with one group exposed to high levels of radiation and the other to low levels. 17:16.640 --> 17:19.723 Why is it necessary to have two comparable groups? 17:19.723 --> 17:28.078 Clearly, we want to make sure that any difference we find is actually attributable to radiation and not, for example, to the 17:28.078 --> 17:34.951 fact that one person lives next to a factory and is exposed to exhaust fumes, while the other lives in 17:34.951 --> 17:38.480 a beautiful, idyllic health resort with fresh air. 17:38.480 --> 17:42.513 That won't work. That's not how research works. 17:42.513 --> 17:47.400 We found it. It wasn't exactly easy, but it took a while. 17:47.400 --> 17:52.380 In the end, we were convinced: yes, this works. 17:54.656 --> 17:58.140 The right place is in northern Bavaria. 17:58.140 --> 18:06.012 Residents of the neighborhood where a cell tower was installed on a rooftop agreed to participate in the 18:06.012 --> 18:11.113 necessary investigations as part of the ATHEM3 study. 18:11.113 --> 18:18.459 A tent was set up in a private garden in the shadow of the cell tower; later, the participants would take a 18:18.459 --> 18:26.410 concentration test there in groups of six, as a distraction from the actual measurement procedure. 18:26.410 --> 18:34.908 In the trailer next to the garden area, all 24 test subjects were fitted with the heart rate 18:34.908 --> 18:41.363 variability (HRV) monitor from Professor Moser’s institute. 18:41.363 --> 18:50.316 Using electrodes attached to the chest, a 24-hour ECG and HRV were initiated. 18:50.316 --> 19:00.288 The data from the small monitoring device would provide insight into how well the autonomic nervous system adapts to stress. 19:00.288 --> 19:08.672 High-precision measurements of the antenna radiation complement this experimental setup. 19:08.672 --> 19:19.122 However, to ensure that the HRV can be properly analyzed, we have a biconical antenna here that picks up cellular 19:19.122 --> 19:25.250 signals in the 800 MHz range for UMTS, LTE 800, and GSM 900. 19:25.250 --> 19:31.396 The entire setup is connected via an antenna cable to a Rohde & Schwarz high-frequency spectrum analyzer. 19:31.396 --> 19:35.463 And that, in turn, is connected to my computer via a LAN cable. 19:35.463 --> 19:43.392 And what normally appears here on the meter's display is shown here. 19:43.392 --> 19:50.970 The current setting is "Clear Write," which means the signals are displayed exactly as they are, up and down. 19:50.970 --> 19:56.430 And now I'm going to set this to "Max Hold," which means we now have two curves. 19:56.430 --> 20:03.283 The yellow curve shows the signals in "Max Hold" mode—the highest values available. 20:03.283 --> 20:06.297 And the green line shows the current value. 20:06.297 --> 20:12.082 And when the test is underway later, the whole thing will be filmed so that you can watch those two hours of the 20:12.082 --> 20:18.430 test phase at your leisure afterward to see what the situation was like in terms of cell phone radiation. 20:18.430 --> 20:26.247 In order to achieve the best possible and, from a cell biology perspective, optimal laboratory results, 20:26.247 --> 20:32.484 the study used blood samples from the test subjects. 20:32.484 --> 20:41.034 Just seven hours after the blood was drawn, the blood transport vehicle arrived at the Cancer Research Institute of 20:41.034 --> 20:50.804 the Slovak Academy of Sciences in Bratislava, carrying four samples from each of the four participants. 20:50.804 --> 20:58.115 The blood cell analyses, conducted anonymously and in a double-blind manner, detect DNA breaks and 20:58.115 --> 21:06.396 chromosomal damage during metaphase—the stage of cell division when the chromosomes become clearly visible. 21:06.396 --> 21:09.841 Here, we are examining the metaphase chromosomes. 21:09.841 --> 21:14.469 We observe the metaphases of these chromosomes at 63x magnification. 21:14.469 --> 21:22.173 After all the metaphases have been recorded, I export them to my computer and analyze each metaphase to determine 21:22.173 --> 21:26.289 the degree of dicentricity and the number of rings present. 21:26.289 --> 21:33.083 Based on the frequency of aberrations , we can determine whether damage is present or not. 21:33.083 --> 21:39.890 One intriguing aspect of this gold standard for laboratory analysis was, of course, whether a possible 21:39.890 --> 21:43.840 difference between the test subjects would emerge. 21:43.840 --> 21:51.518 So, are those who live closer to transmission towers exposed to a higher health risk than 21:51.518 --> 21:56.540 those who live farther away from the towers? 22:01.770 --> 22:09.366 Professor Belyaev summarizes one of the most important findings of the laboratory studies as follows: 22:09.366 --> 22:17.739 Analysis of the total number of chromosomal aberrations revealed an extremely high, statistically 22:17.739 --> 22:24.383 significant difference between the exposed and unexposed groups: 22:24.383 --> 22:43.723 Chromosomal aberrations occurred nearly twice as often in the cells of the exposed group as in those of the unexposed group… 22:43.723 --> 22:50.820 These study results were first published internationally in 2024. 22:50.820 --> 22:56.160 The chromosomal abnormalities shown are clearly evident. 22:56.160 --> 23:04.226 This alone points to a biologically plausible mechanism and, consequently, a significantly increased risk 23:04.226 --> 23:09.720 of cancer for people living near cell phone towers. 23:12.480 --> 23:26.683 Essentially, these data confirmed our conclusion that the increase in chromosomal damage in the cells of 23:26.683 --> 23:40.576 people living near cell towers is caused by exposure to downlink signals, such as GSM or LTE. 23:40.576 --> 23:46.960 So that was our final conclusion from this project. 23:48.704 --> 23:53.184 There is another surprising variation within the publication. 23:53.184 --> 24:00.662 The International Atomic Energy Agency's limits for low-dose ionizing radiation were taken into account. 24:00.662 --> 24:07.996 The protective limit here is one millisievert. This is the physical unit of radiation dose. 24:07.996 --> 24:15.036 In the context of radioactive exposure, it was used for comparison in ATHEM3. 24:15.036 --> 24:21.960 In fact, the physical unit sievert can be expressed in terms of chromosome damage, and vice versa. 24:21.960 --> 24:31.590 The average chromosomal damage recorded in the ATHEM3 study corresponds to an equivalent dose of 74.6 millisieverts. 24:31.590 --> 24:37.901 This value was divided by 10 because the participants had lived in the vicinity of the antenna for about 10 years. 24:37.901 --> 24:47.481 What we did: The International Atomic Energy Agency has a special manual. 24:47.481 --> 24:59.412 This shows that the dose of ionizing radiation can be determined based on measurements of chromosomal aberrations. 24:59.412 --> 25:18.257 We applied this method and determined the dose of ionizing radiation that would produce the same effect we observed in 25:18.257 --> 25:31.174 the group of highly exposed participants in our ATHEM3 project. 25:31.174 --> 25:36.687 What is still being expressed here in a rather subtle way may well be a paradigm shift of the highest order. 25:36.687 --> 25:42.481 The principal investigator of the ATHEM3 study shares this view. 25:42.481 --> 25:49.541 There is the International Atomic Energy Agency, which issues guidelines. 25:49.541 --> 25:55.281 And just for fun, we asked ourselves: What’s it actually like in another field of knowledge? 25:55.281 --> 26:03.900 We went to the International Atomic Energy Agency and obtained their guidelines. 26:03.900 --> 26:13.086 And the great thing is: The damage we see is exactly the same as what they saw. 26:13.086 --> 26:20.992 And based on the extent of the damage, they can determine the dose. 26:20.992 --> 26:26.370 Now let's talk about two different areas of standardization. 26:26.370 --> 26:31.490 One is ionizing radiation, and the other is non-ionizing radiation. 26:31.490 --> 26:39.360 It's important to understand that, technically speaking, these are two completely distinct things. 26:39.360 --> 26:43.760 In biology, this distinction makes no sense at all. 26:43.760 --> 26:51.624 And that is why it makes biological sense to look here: This is where DNA and chromosomal damage occurs, 26:51.624 --> 26:55.932 and this is where DNA and chromosomal damage occurs. 26:55.932 --> 27:04.712 Yes, for heaven's sake, how is a cell supposed to know whether the damage is caused by ionizing radiation or non-ionizing 27:04.712 --> 27:09.716 radiation…—that's complete nonsense; the damage is there. 27:09.716 --> 27:20.596 And depending on which set of regulations we follow, these are either violations of limit values or—if we use the standard 27:20.596 --> 27:30.762 regulations —as is simply established in our daily practice—and if we assume non-ionizing radiation—then this is a 27:30.762 --> 27:39.840 scientific finding where an official says: “That can’t be right; it just doesn’t fit the picture!” 27:39.840 --> 27:41.927 The cell doesn't care. 27:41.927 --> 27:47.620 But why is radiation from radioactive materials dangerous in the first place? 27:47.620 --> 27:56.594 All types of this radiation affect human cells and can cause healthy cells to become cancerous or damage genetic material. 27:56.594 --> 28:00.918 As the distance from the radioactive source increases, the radiation decreases and is 28:00.918 --> 28:03.923 partially shielded by the materials in between. 28:03.923 --> 28:13.892 Clearly, this is a situation just like Galileo's—he believed that the Earth wasn't flat, but round. 28:13.892 --> 28:23.056 The establishment feels that the status quo has been disrupted, and everyone knows the rest of the story. 28:23.056 --> 28:31.843 He then had to officially recant, but 500 years later, we know he was right all along. 28:31.843 --> 28:39.492 And as a scientist, it’s always a good idea to practice humility. 28:39.492 --> 28:43.958 I'm comparing myself to Galileo here. 28:43.958 --> 28:53.821 And please forgive me for saying this, but we're talking about challenging a scientific dogma. 28:53.821 --> 28:57.852 Many of my colleagues have already realized this. 28:57.852 --> 29:03.680 The implications of these findings might look something like this: 29:06.744 --> 29:14.482 It is only natural that the results of the ATHEM3 study are also being debated in scientific circles. 29:14.482 --> 29:19.660 It is important that new findings are disseminated at all. 29:19.660 --> 29:29.074 At the world's largest toxicology conference, which was last held in Beijing in October 2025, Professor Igor Belyaev had 29:29.074 --> 29:35.034 the opportunity to speak before a large audience of experts. 29:35.034 --> 29:42.527 And yet the Earth does move. — Hopefully, the authorities will soon follow suit. 29:42.527 --> 29:51.762 It was a truly wonderful conference. An international conference on genotoxicity and toxicology. 29:51.762 --> 29:55.375 There were over 1,000 participants. 29:55.375 --> 30:02.854 Most came from China and Asia; not as many came from the United States, Europe, and other parts of the 30:02.854 --> 30:07.776 world, such as Latin America, Canada, and Australia. 30:07.776 --> 30:12.514 I was invited to give a presentation. 30:12.514 --> 30:20.860 My presentation covered the results of our ATHEM3 study ... 30:28.714 --> 30:36.630 We had three representatives from the Federal Office for Radiation Protection facing off against five doctors. 30:36.630 --> 30:39.867 We shared our stories. 30:41.871 --> 30:48.453 It was strange because we doctors were already overcome with emotion. 30:48.453 --> 30:56.534 We've fought for our patients, including, among others, Dr. Barbara Dohmen, who does a great deal 30:56.534 --> 31:02.200 of work in the Black Forest. You know her, Klaus. 31:04.865 --> 31:10.766 Others, too. Barbara showed a film about people with electromagnetic hypersensitivity in the forest who have 31:10.766 --> 31:17.260 to spend the winter in the cold; she then provides them with blankets in the winter as they flee from radiation. 31:17.260 --> 31:27.473 And let's be honest, no one would willingly give up a warm apartment or a warm home unless 31:27.473 --> 31:33.696 they were seriously affected by radio waves. 31:33.696 --> 31:39.350 Well, but those people just sat there across from us, completely unmoved: 31:39.350 --> 31:43.200 "We're taking note of what you're telling us." 31:45.772 --> 31:55.261 The evidence presented in the U.S. court proceedings regarding brain tumors has now been supplemented by the ATHEM3 study. 31:55.261 --> 32:03.623 The comparative approach—which posits that radioactive radiation and cellular radiation can cause similar 32:03.623 --> 32:08.800 harm—offers a new perspective on the assessment of health risks.