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Since March 1, 2020, a measles vaccination mandate has applied in
Germany to certain groups such as children from the

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completed first year of life upon new admission to a
community facility such as a daycare center or school.

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Employees in community and medical
facilities who were born after 1970 and others.

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Such a measles vaccination mandate was highly questionable from
the outset with regard to its medical and legal justification.

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In practice, physicians, scientists, and
jurists were repeatedly confronted with the

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distress of patients or also parents and children:

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either due to severe vaccination side effects or also due
to exclusion from community facilities, or high fine

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demands on the part of the authorities for non-vaccination.

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This prompted them to thoroughly examine the official
narratives of a measles vaccination mandate. Kla.TV reported.

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This topic also moved, among others, the alliance
"Physicians and Scientists for Health, Freedom and

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Democracy, e.V." with its deputy chairman Dr. Ronald Weikl.

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The alliance launched a petition for the
immediate lifting of the measles vaccination mandate.

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The necessary quorum of 30,000 co-signatures was
reached in order to obtain a hearing before the

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Petitions Committee of the Bundestag in Berlin.

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This took place on September 21, 2026,
with Dr. Ronald Weikl accompanied by the

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specialist lawyer for medical law Beate Bahner.

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In the following, you will see the most important
excerpts from the roughly one-hour question-and-answer session.

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It was telling that Dr. Weikl had shortly
beforehand been excluded from entering the Bundestag.

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At the beginning, the petitioners described their concern:

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"Dear Madam Chairwoman, dear ladies and
gentlemen members of parliament, a warm greeting also

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to all viewers in the hall and in the livestream.

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First, I would like to briefly state that I find it extremely
regrettable and also in no way comprehensible that, as was

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communicated to me virtually at the last
minute – namely on Friday at 10:20 a.m. through a

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phone call during my office hours – I quote:

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"that the reliability check by the police at the German
Bundestag, based on the rules of the German

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Bundestag, has shown that I cannot be granted
access to the properties of the German Bundestag."

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End of quote. That is why I am
sitting here in a Berlin hotel room.

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Why this was communicated on Friday at the last minute, at a
time when I can virtually do nothing more, I cannot understand.

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For the Federal Police has obviously known for some time
that, after months of email and telephone contact with the

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Petitions Committee, I would appear here as the main petitioner.

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But because the issue is so important and so many people are
affected and have long been waiting for the

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possibility that this important concern can
finally also be presented at the parliamentary level,

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I accepted the offer to join via Zoom and will try, even under
these somewhat limited conditions, to do my

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best, together with Ms. Bahner, who thank God
was not excluded and can be present on site.

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I hope the connection here works.

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Ms. Attorney Bahner and I represent here and today, as members of
the Measles Protection Act working group of the

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association MWGfD, the interests of thousands
of people in Germany, especially many parents,

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who want to have themselves or their children vaccinated against
measles or measles, mumps, rubella, contrary to the requirements

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of the Measles Protection Act, for medically
comprehensible reasons, since there is now

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only a triple vaccine or quadruple vaccine.

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The unimaginable ordeal to which these people are mostly exposed
when it comes to contraindication certificates must finally be

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ended and is no longer acceptable, as is the inconceivable
criminal prosecution and defamation of honest doctors

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who issue such certificates after a careful medical history.

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Daycare and school administrations, public health
offices and not least local courts are also often

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completely overwhelmed in dealing with these regulations.

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I know what I am talking about, because I myself
am confronted with this issue daily in my practice.

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And although there would be serious reasons for it, the goal of
our petition is not the prohibition of the

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measles vaccination, but merely the repeal of
the almost absurd mandatory measles vaccination.

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For there are numerous medical and legal
arguments against it, which we have published on

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the website meine-freie-impfentscheidung.de.

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The conclusion of our assessment is clear.

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There is no necessity whatsoever
for a mandatory measles vaccination.

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You, the members of the German Bundestag, are obviously being
deceived, or obviously were deceived, with numerous pieces of

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misinformation regarding the alleged necessity of a mandatory
vaccination when you had to vote on the law in November 2019.

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In fact, the risk of harm from the vaccination is unfortunately
many times higher than the risk of harm from a measles infection.

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That alone already constitutes a
contraindication for the vaccination.

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And as with other vaccinations, from our point of view it must be
left solely to the discretion of the parents and those affected

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and the adults whether they want to be vaccinated or not.

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And that applies all the more given the
harmlessness of the childhood disease

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measles, which has anyway been almost eliminated.

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Doctors are therefore obligated to provide
concrete, correct and critical information.

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We therefore ask you to inform all colleagues
in your parliamentary group about our arguments.

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And please initiate all necessary steps across party lines
so that the Measles Protection Act and the mandatory vaccination

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formulated therein are repealed as quickly as possible."

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"Why is the Measles Protection Act untenable for honest jurists?

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Because healthy unvaccinated children are
excluded from daycare and thus from social life.

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For me as a specialist lawyer for medical law, this is
a new disgrace in view of our inglorious German past.

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Because there is a complete lack of any risk analysis as to
what extent unvaccinated children actually pose a danger.

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Never has a clean, correct, evidence-based scientific
risk assessment been carried out with regard to the

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alleged danger posed by these unvaccinated children.

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A distinguished safety and risk expert, Prof. Werner Bergholz,
has made up for this on the basis of

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international standards and describes the daycare
exclusion as simply grotesque due to the lack of risk.

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In fact, unvaccinated children are
not a danger, but perfectly healthy.

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An American study proves this.

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Vaccinated children are chronically
sicker than unvaccinated children.

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The exclusion of unvaccinated daycare children is a blatant
violation of the UN Convention on the Rights

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of the Child and the absolute prohibition of
discrimination enshrined therein in Article 2.

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The German legislature and the Federal Constitutional Court
disregard binding international law and the German Basic

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Law and the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights, which
contain the fundamental right to free medical decision-making."

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The following question-and-answer section first deals
with the risk of a serious measles vaccination injury in

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relation to the risk of a serious complication from measles.

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"Yes, the ECDC declares, or rather the German NAVKO has
declared measles eliminated for Germany for several years.

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The ECDC says there are five per one million
measles cases, so an extremely rare disease.

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The ECDC also says that in the entire
European WHO region, one in 100 million people dies

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from measles, ten out of 930 million people.

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One in a billion, says the ECDC, so these are
official figures, gets encephalitis from measles.

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In contrast, there are 140 severe measles vaccine
injuries declared by the Paul Ehrlich Institute.

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140 families every year – two deaths, the Paul
Ehrlich Institute also reports, about annually.

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So that is 140 times as high as the risk of
contracting a measles illness, a severe

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consequence of measles, encephalitis, or even dying.

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However, we must extrapolate these figures from the Paul Ehrlich
Institute – 140 of them 110 severe, two of them

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fatal each year – by a factor of 20, because it has
been proven that side effects are only reported at 5%.

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However, this applies to
medications, vaccines only at one percent.

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Then, when extrapolated, we have 20 times 100,
between 280 and 1140 severe vaccine side effects.

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That is absurd. I hand over to Ronny Weikl."

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"Admittedly, it is the case that vaccinations
certainly lead to a decline in measles cases, the incidence.

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But we must ask ourselves at what price.

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Because measles is a harmless disease.

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And measles also has many advantages.

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This illness – immune protection, longer-term immune protection
– it also contributes to the fact that having had measles

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results in permanent immunity, in contrast to vaccination.

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People who have had measles later in life have
significantly fewer certain diseases such as autoimmune

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diseases, cancers, and have many other advantages.

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So at what price did we do that?

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And an important factor is that by now vaccinated mothers can no
longer pass on sufficient nest protection to their children, so

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that frequently even infants in a significantly endangered age
are now falling ill, so that the number of measles cases, which

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has indeed declined due to vaccination, is not really a gain.

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" "The situation before the introduction of the
vaccination was actually a completely harmless one.

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Incidentally, the vaccination was introduced in the USA in 1963.

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In Germany we were at 73, so ten years later.

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We have statistics showing that the death rates were still
relatively high around the turn of the

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millennium, but then, long before the introduction of
the vaccination, they virtually dropped to zero.

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There is a wonderful statistic by an
Armstrong that can be looked up everywhere.

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And there are also statistics for Germany.

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We can assume that in the 1960s there were still approximately
100 to 1,500 deaths per year, with an estimated one

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million measles cases, because virtually everyone had measles.

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It was a harmless childhood disease.

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And in the 1970s there were still
approximately 20 to 30 deaths per year.

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This illness was even longed for by some, because measles
infection demonstrably brought about immune stabilization.

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Many children, it was described, then underwent developmental
leaps and were also protected from other illnesses later

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in life, so that parents sometimes sent their children to
neighbors who had measles before they reached school age.

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Almost everyone got measles between the ages of four
and ten and was then permanently protected for life.

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And this protection then also contributed, as it were, to
herd protection, this protection through normal illness.

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And basically, it wasn't treated at
all, because it didn't have to be treated.

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Except that the children were simply granted
rest, that they were given some care, that

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they were looked after, love and affection.

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And it was seen that reducing fever does not help at all.

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It was seen overall that reducing fever
brings most of the complications with it.

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Another advantage was that the mothers provided
sufficient herd protection, so that illnesses

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in early childhood or infancy hardly occurred.

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So we had a completely harmless situation, and I can also cite a
quote from a Professor Henneberg from Beate Bahner's

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book. After all, he was a former RKI president and
vice president of the former Federal Health Office.

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And he said - quote - in 1962: "A vaccination against measles is
currently not advisable also for the reason

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that measles only becomes dangerous in rare
cases - which can be treated therapeutically.

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A measles prophylaxis is therefore not justified, "

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The question went to the State Secretary of the
Federal Ministry of Health Dr. Schenderlein as to

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whether the BMG had carried out a risk assessment.

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Here is the answer, or rather the non-answer.

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"Thank you very much, Madam Chair. First of all, it must
be said that the figures that have been expressed here,

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now also in the previous round, are completely unfounded.

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These figures do not exist in this form.

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Of course, we work very closely with
the RKI and the Paul Ehrlich Institute.

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And above all, the portrayal that measles is a purely
harmless childhood disease is completely incorrect.

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The goal is indeed to eliminate this disease.

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How does that succeed?

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Through a high vaccination rate.

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This vaccination rate has also increased since
this proof-of-vaccination requirement was introduced.

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That is why these figures are clear.

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They are also the basis, and they
are also correspondingly evident.

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And the institutions have also dealt with this intensively.

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The Federal Constitutional Court, too,
already ruled comprehensively on this in 2022.

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And said that the regulations in the
Measles Protection Act are constitutional.

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And that the proof requirement is also
correspondingly practicable and feasible.

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Above all in the sense that this disease entails great dangers.

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One must say that the valid figures concern the
fact that 1 in 1,000 cases can lead to a death.

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By contrast: allergic reactions, which are easily treatable,
occur with the measles vaccination at 1 to 4 per million.

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So these are completely different foundations
and figures, which are also verifiable here and

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on which these decisions were of course based.

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On the accuracy of the figures
mentioned, Ms. Bahner addresses this elsewhere:

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"Again, I am very surprised that the Ministry of
Health here speaks of false information and false figures.

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They are the WHO's own figures and those of the RKI on how
many measles deaths there are in a region of almost one billion.

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That is, namely, ten in one year.

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That makes one in 100 million.

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I am also surprised that you do not know the RKI's figures.

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For about ten years there has been virtually no death
from measles in Germany, and only every few years an

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encephalitis or an SSPE, which is highly controversial anyway.

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You will find all these figures in the
book. Nice that you got it. With evidence!

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And that is, after all, the measles
report, the annual measles report of the ECDC.

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If you call that misinformation, then I have to be surprised.

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Then I also wonder whether your real concern
here is the health, especially of children.

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A main argument of the official proponents of
mandatory vaccination is the protection of

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vulnerable groups such as infants or older people.

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In response to a question on this matter,
State Secretary Schenderlein answered as follows:

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Thank you very much, colleague, for above all
establishing this connection, which is so crucial.

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This vaccination and this proof requirement that was introduced
serve above all to especially protect vulnerable groups.

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Who are they?

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These are, on the one hand, infants who
cannot yet be vaccinated - vaccination is only

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carried out starting from the first year of life.

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And of course also older persons.

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And of course it is always also a protection, especially of these
vulnerable groups, which are given particular consideration.

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And that is why we are looking very
closely at how this vaccination rate is rising.

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You said that correctly.

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It has risen slightly.

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But we are also not yet at the point where
we say that this is actually now the goal.

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Because actually we truly want to reach over 90, ideally 95%.

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And therefore comprehensive educational efforts are taking place.

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And this proof requirement must also be enforced.

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It must also, and indeed a great deal of
information is continually being passed on.

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For example, we are also currently seeing the
problem that there is a great deal of misinformation.

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And that leads to great uncertainty.

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And in order to counteract this,
educational efforts are also taking place, for

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example, especially by the Robert Koch Institute.

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As an example, I would like to mention the fact
sandwiches that are available and that also serve to educate

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about the methodology and also to refute false information.

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And that can then also be used in conversations."

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To protect vulnerable groups, Dr. Weikl states:

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"Now I would like to take a question from Ms. Schenderlein.

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How can one, with a vaccination that demonstrably does not offer
one hundred percent protection, as seen in the fact that 20

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to 30% of measles cases actually affect vaccinated individuals,
how can one eliminate or eradicate anything with that?

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That is the question.

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And the alleged protection of vulnerable groups, how can that
result when we know – now after one, this can be taken from the

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ECDC Annual Report 2024 – that a large number of those now
falling ill are falling ill at the age of under

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one year, which previously – when the aforementioned
nest protection existed – was not the case at all.

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So infants are actually put at greater risk by the vaccination.

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And the same applies to older persons, who, if they had
gone through the illness earlier, would be protected for life.

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And now to the other question, the
question from the member of parliament.

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So we refer to several studies, which can also be
read in our report, which, by the way, we

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already sent to all members of parliament in November.

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All source references are listed at the bottom.

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But for example, we have the report from the Paul
Ehrlich Institute, which issued the last one in 2012.

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One wonders why no new one is coming.

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According to Professor Sönnichsen, who deals with
this, the data are currently very difficult to discern.

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The data on side effects only through PDF
files, which are very difficult to pick apart.

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But we have a report from 2012 and there you can see
that the vaccination is not so harmless after all.

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For we see that 13,000 serious side effects
were reported to the Paul Ehrlich Institute.

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And that corresponds to about 5.7
reports per 100,000 vaccine doses.

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And we carry out 1.2 million vaccinations per year.

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And we see that encephalitis, for
example, is also very common: 1 in 8,000.

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And that means that we can expect a very high
number of children harmed by the vaccination.

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Over 100 children due to the vaccination
in Germany based purely on the figures.

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Then there is also a Cochrane review from 2020.

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It likewise confirms that the
vaccination can cause dramatic harm. "

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Dr. Weikl adds elsewhere:

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"Back again to the Cochrane review 2020.

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It names aseptic meningitis with a risk of 1 in 8,000.

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That means this is a very high risk.

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The Cochrane Review 2021 then itself assesses the evidence
on the safety of the measles vaccination as low to moderate.

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The authors had to resort in part to observational
studies of inferior quality, they write themselves.

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And adequate safety studies with a
long-term design are simply lacking.

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We must once again bear in mind.

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The vaccination consists of live viruses
that can spread and multiply in the body.

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We know that in frequent cases they lead to febrile seizures,
epilepsy, autoimmune diseases, idiopathic thrombocytopenic

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purpura, all of which is also stated in the report,
compared with hardly any risks from a measles infection.

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Purpura Schönlein-Henoch is mentioned to me.

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And the Henry Ford study, to which I would like to refer,
which examined over 18,000 children, showed that the

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unvaccinated are significantly healthier than the vaccinated.

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We also have connections regarding the measles
vaccination with developmental delays, autism, dermatitis,

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eczema, type 1 diabetes, allergies, asthma, and so on.

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There is a very, very large amount of evidence, also in the
Cochrane Review, that we absolutely must take into account."

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In the second round of questions, the discussion focused on the
usefulness of a second measles vaccination, the unavailability

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of a single vaccine for measles, whether measles is a
dangerous or beneficial childhood disease, and other aspects.

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Dr. Weikl comments on the question of whether
elimination of measles is even possible. Because that is the

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official objective of the mandatory measles vaccination:

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"On the one hand, we know that these reports to the
reporting authorities are extremely underrepresented.

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We have already stated a factor of 15 to 20.

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It is probably even much, much higher.

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Some even speak of a factor of 100.

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The reports of side effects are much, much higher.

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The most important question is: How can we, with a vaccination
that does not work 100% anyway—but we see it in the ECDC

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figures that approximately 20 to 30% of measles cases involve
vaccinated individuals, and many other studies also show this.

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Can we even eliminate something that was
just addressed by the State Secretary?!

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Then the question about the combination vaccine.

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How can one administer a combination vaccine that
contains a disease, for example rubella, which has been

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considered eliminated in Germany for years—that is bodily harm.

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And I would like to emphasize once again the dangerousness of the
vaccination, an expert opinion that Professor Jilk, former member

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of the STIKO, prepared on behalf of the Amberg public
prosecutor's office for an investigation, and in which he himself

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writes that the risk of measles encephalitis with a vaccination
is eight to 17 times higher than without vaccination.

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He writes that the vaccination brings with it massive harm.

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And the crucial question that we must ask ourselves is this:

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How can the decline in measles incidence sold to us as a
common good, with many, many disadvantages, be weighed

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against a health risk to an individual that demonstrably exists.

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We doctors are obligated to the individual, not to public health.

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And we currently know from the ECDC figures that one to two out
of 100 million people in the WHO European

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Region, which includes almost one billion
people, everything is indeed still included there.

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One to two out of 100 million people die of measles.

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In 2024, 23 died in the region, and in 2023 there were 10.

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That is an extremely low number and it in no way
justifies an epidemiological emergency, which would actually

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be necessary for a restriction of fundamental rights."

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Esteemed viewers!

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This is not about any legal disputes and medical
theories, but about the well-being of millions of people.

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Kla.TV will continue to monitor for you how the
members of the Bundestag deal with this petition.
