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„Soki ba originaux wana ezali lisusu te, yango
nde esalaka ete bolukiluki ya solo ekoka te.

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Soki nazali na babuku ya kala te, mpe ba dossiers ya kala te.

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Yango efungolaka nzela ya kokosa.“

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Lelo na Kla.TV studio nazali koyamba mwasi ya mayele ya istware
mpe ya lingɛlɛsi oyo azali na master na bokambi ya mombongo.

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Lokola mokomi ya masolo mingi ya mayele mpe babuku ya
boyebi ya istware ya bomoto mpe ya bonkoko, na 2024 buku

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na ye „Bokangi ya mokili ya kala mpe ya sika“ ebimaki.

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Boyeyi malamu mwasi Dr. Renate Reuther!

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Iyo, matondo mpo na bofengi!

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Iyo kitoko, ete ozali awa! Na mobali na yo
nasalaki deja esengo. Lelo tozali na likambo ya istware.

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Siyansi ezalaka na bomoi mpo na makomi, ba manuscrit,
babuku mpe ba sources mosusu, mpe kozanga yango,

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kososola ya makasi na istware, na ba sujets nyonso, ekoki te.

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Mwasi Reuther, ndenge nini ezali
mpo na kokota na ba sources wana?

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Ezali kokomela moto mpasi mingi, mingi
mingi soki moto azali journaliste ya libanda

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to istoryen to molukiluki ya ndenge nyonso.

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Ebandaka na makambo ya pete, ete bafutaka
mbongo mpo na bokoti nyonso, ndakisa na archives.

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Batalaka malamu nani ya solo alingi eloko wana, mpe ndenge
ezalaki banda mbula nkama mingi, lelo ezali kaka

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ndenge moko, soki moto mabe atuni makambo oyo
balingi te kopesa ye, yango ezalaka kaka te to ezali te.

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Mpe mpo ete yango ebimisa makambo yango polele te, sikoyo babombi
bisika mingi ya bibombelo, oyo ezalaki na bamboka, mbala mingi na

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ndako ya mokonzi ya mboka to na ndako ya kala, ata na ndako ya
kala ya mokonzi, sikoyo – na ndenge balobaka ete ezali mpo na

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libateli na bango moko, bibombelo ya kala ya
mikanda ya kala – babimisaki yango na bisika ya

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mosika, na babunker, na bibombelo, esika nyonso.

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Mpe sima esengeli kokoma liboso ete
olingi komona dokumenti oyo to oyo.

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Mpe sima bakendaka kuna mbala moko to mbala mibale na
pɔsɔ, mpe sima bazongisaka yango, mpe sima esengeli

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yo moko kozala wana lisusu mpo na komona papye yango.

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Nasalaki mingi na bibombelo mpo na kokoma
lisolo ya kala oyo bakomaki naino te. Mpe

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yango ezalaki ntango nyonso mosala ya mpasi.

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Kasi na makambo ya ndenge wana, ya solo ezali pene na kokoka te.

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Mpo na kokoma buku oyo yo moko olukiluki, esika
otatolaka kaka na AI te, otangaka – nayebi te –

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mikanda ya nkama, nkama mingi, ata nkoto ya nkama.

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Mpe soki yebi malamu te nini esengeli kosenga – mpo bakatalogo
ya bibombelo ezalaka polele mingi te – mpe sima esengeli koloba

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mpenza papye nini olingi, makambo nyonso ekómaka mpasi mingi.

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Mpo soki ozwi yango mpe omoni, ofungoli yango – „Ah, yango ezali
mpenza te oyo nazalaki na yango mposa,

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makambo oyo esungi ngai ezali kati te“ – yango
wana mobembo nyonso na bibombelo ezalaki mpamba.

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Mpe okoki kozela lisusu pɔsɔ oyo
elandi, tii bakozwa lisusu eloko moko.

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Yango wana, yango ezali likambo ya mbula mingi
mpe ezali kokómisa makambo mpasi mingi koleka.

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Mpe ya solo, soki olingi kosala na
masolo ya ebandeli, ezali pasi te.

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Mpe soki balobi ete mingi ebongisami na nzela ya digital, okokamwa
ndenge moke ebongisami na nzela ya digital, na ngambo moko.

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Mpe na makambo ya nzela ya elektroniki,
ezalaka ntango nyonso ntembe moke ya ndenge wana:

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Yango wana nde nyonso? Bazali kuna
nkasa? Bazali kuna babuku mobimba?

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Ya solosolo yango nde oyo nakokanisaka na nse ya motó ya lisolo?

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Na makambo ya nzela ya elektroniki, moto akoki
koboma to kolimwisa to kosundola eloko mpamba.

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Yango ezali mosusu mobimba na ndenge moto
afungolaka dokument ya kala, dosie ya kala na arsive, mpe

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atángaka yango mpe azali na papie ya kala ya solo.

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Iyo, olobaki na ntina ya digitalisation.

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Sikoyo ezali na masolo ebele ete bakompanyi ya AI bazali kosomba
babuku ya kala, sima bazali kosala yango na nzela

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ya elektroniki, mpe bazali kolya na yango ba
modeles na bango ya monoko to ba modeles mosusu ya AI.

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Kasi na suka, bazali kozongisa yango te, kasi babuku
yango bazali koboma yango. Nini ozali kokanisa na yango?

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Likambo ya nsɔni. Ya solo, nakamwaki mingi ntango nayokaki yango.

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Mpe na ntembe na ngai mpe na bokritiki ya
système, nasengeli kokanisa mabe mbala moko.

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Ezali na ntina te ete sima ya kosala scan, bakoboma biloko yango.

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Bazali kosala scan ya biloko oyo ezali na ba
arsive mpe ba bibliothèque banda mibú ebele.

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Mpe sikoyo koloba ete sima bakoboma yango, ya solo nakoki
kozwa ndimbola ya malamu te oyo ezali kokanisa mabe te.

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Mpo babuku ya kala oyo basombaki na ba antiquariats
, mbala ebele ezalaka kaka na ba exemplaires moke.

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Mpe soki babomi yango, moto akoki kozwa yango lisusu te.

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Mpe yango ezali koyokana na «1984», oyo Orwell
akomaki, ete bazali kobongola libela istware na sima, mpo

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ekokana na sikoyo, mpe bakoki kokamba mikolo ekoya.

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Mpe na misala na ngai – Gerd na Renate Reuther
bazwaki makambo mingi na lisolo ya kala – mpe

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na yango moto abandaka na mikanda ya kala mingi.

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Biso nde ya liboso te oyo bazali na ntembe, to ya liboso
oyo bazali kolakisa mabunga to kozwa ntembe na masolo.

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Mpe biso tatalelaka ete bato ya liboso bamesenaki mituna
wana to bamonaki makanisi na bango moko, bakomaki yango.

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Na yango tosengeli na mikanda na bango. To tosengeli kaka na
makomi ya ebandeli. Shakespeare babongolaka yango mbala na mbala.

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Na yango moto akoki kosalela makomi ya
sika, to na Biblia bato bayebi yango mpe.

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Yango mpe babongolaka yango ntango nyonso – mpe
sikoyo ezali na bavariante, na yango Nzambe azali mwasi.

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Na yango moto akoki kolinga, mpo na kolimbola
likambo, koloba ete, nazali kolinga kobanga

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babongoli ya ebandeli ya Luther to Zwingli, ata nini.

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Soki bakomi ya ebandeli wana ezali lisusu te,
yango nde esalaka ete bolukiluki ya solo ekoka te.

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Mpe yango ezali kaka mpo na ngai lokola moluki ya lisolo te, ezali
mpe mpo na bisika nyonso mosusu, ata soki bazali bapanzi nsango

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to baekole nyonso mosusu, ata soki ezali monganga to mibeko.

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Moto alingaka kotala sima mpe koloba, ndenge
nini ebandaki, ezalaki ndenge nini na ntango wana?

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Mpe soki nazali na mikanda ya kala te, na bakomi ya kala te, –
ata soki ebungaki mpenza to soki ekangami kaka mpe

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ebombami esika moko, kasi ngai lokola moto ya bolukiluki
nakoki kokoma na yango te – yango ezali pene ndenge moko.

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Mpe yango efungolaka nzela na mayele ya kobimisa bosembo mabe.

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Kasi sikoyo otangaki mikanda mingi
mpe okomaki mpe likambo na yango.

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Okoki kolakisa bataleli ndakisa moko to mibale,
wapi okutanaki na bokeseni kati na oyo bato bazali

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kornona lokola likanisi mpe oyo yo moko okutaki?

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Ya, soki tozali na makomi, eloko ya polele
koleka mbala mosusu ezali bibliyotɛkɛ ya Alexandrie.

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Bato nyonso bayebi yango. Kasi bamonaki yango naino te.

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Ndenge nini?

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Bamonaki ata buku moko te oyo ezalaki kuna.

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Mpe mpenza esengeli koloba mikanda ya mabɔkɔ.
Kasi mikanda ya mabɔkɔ mpe bamonaki yango te.

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Yango wana, bamonaki ata buku moko te, ata mokanda
moko te, ata mokanda ya mabɔkɔ moko te, oyo tokoki

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koloba ete ezalaki kuna na bibliyotɛkɛ na ntango wana.

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Bamonaki mpe ata molɔngɔ ya buku te, naloba
bongo, ata molɔngɔ ya biloko oyo ezalaki kuna.

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Mpe na Alexandrie bazali kotimba. Ezali na
engumba ya kala oyo ebombami, oyo bazali kotimba yango.

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Kasi bakoki kozwa bibliyotɛkɛ te, ata soki bazali
kotimba mpenza banda bambula mingi — ndenge nayebi —.

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Mpe bazali na eloko moko kuna, oyo
bazali koloba ete ezali ndako ya palais.

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Mpe balobi ete ezali na kati ya ndako ya palais.

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Kasi bazali na eloko moko te oyo ezali mpenza … — bazali
na mabɔkɔ ya ndako. Kasi esika nini nde ezali bibliyotɛkɛ?

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Mpe soki ezalaki monene ndenge bato mosusu
balobaka, esengelaki ezala na bilembo moko.

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Mpe wana nde bokabwani ezali. Soki otangi makomi ya bibliyotɛkɛ
ya Alexandrie, ezali na buku mobimba mpe makomi milai.

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Mpe bazali kosepela, ndenge ezalaki monene, ete ezalaki
na laboratware, elanga ya banzete, elanga ya banyama.

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Banganga-mayele, bafilozofe, bakomaki, babimisaki makomi.

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Mpe na nsima nakuti ata mwa mwa te.
Yango nazali komona yango mwa kokamwa.

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Mpe ebebisami enene wana, wapi biloko nyonso
ebungaki na nzela ya kokoka komonana te, boyebi

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ya ntango ya kala, yango mpe ezali polele te.

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Yango nde ewundisaki ngai koleka. Na sima
nakanisaki ete, yo, yango eyebani. Vimbe ezalaki

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na etumba to mwinda. Mpe na sima ezalaki kaka…

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Yango, bimekeli ezali na bamvu ebele kati na
yango, ntango nini esilaki kobunga mobimba.

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Mpe soki moto amitunisi, yo, nani nde akofutaki to
asangisaki mosala monene lokola yango, yango ekokaki

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kosalema ndenge nini? Yango ezalaki ntalo mingi mpenza.

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Na sima ezali na ndimbola ya pete uta na ntango ya kala, bato
wana, bakomi to balibretɛrɛ wana, bazalaki kokita na

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libongo ya Aleksandria, bazalaki koluka na bamasuwa mpe bamonaki
babuku oyo bazalaki na mposa na yango mpo na bibliotɛkɛ.

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Yango mpe ezali likanisi ya mpasi moke, ndenge nini
moto akoki kotonga bibliotɛkɛ na boumeli ya libela.

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Kasi boyebi ya bibliotɛkɛ oyo ezali to ezali te ewuti wapi?

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Ezali na kati ya bikamwa ya mokili, yango moko akomaki yango.

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Malamu, ezali na masolo, ezali na bantɔli, kasi na mawa, mpe
yango tosili kokanga yango mpenza na „Tatort

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Vergangenheit“ mpe na „Tatort Gelehrtenstube“, ete
tozali na mikanda ya ebandeli te uta na ntango ya kala.

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Ezali na libulu monene na ntango, na kati na yango ezali na
eloko te mpe na Eropa toyebaki te ete ezalaki na mikanda ya

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ntango ya kala, makomi ya ntango ya kala, mpe bongo na bongo.

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Na sima basalaki molongo moko ya kati ya kouvent moko, ete
bakopaki eloko, mpe kouvent mosusu, mpe na mbalakaka –

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banda 1200 mpe na ntango ya 1400, 1500 – bakutaki
mikanda mingi ya ntango ya kala. Na mbalakaka ezali wana.

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Mpe yango ezali kokamwisa moke, ezali ntango nyonso ya kondimama
te, mingi mingi soki oyebi ete – ye azalaki mokomi ya sekele ya

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bapapa ebele, elingi koloba sekretere ya papa, oyo azalaki na
litomba mingi na moto ya likambo yango, – ye amonaki

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pene na kati ya bantoma ya kala nyonso na bomoi na
ye, kaka ntango litomba mpo na yango ebandaki kobima.

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Mpe likambo ya kokamwisa ezali ete amonaki ebele ya mikanda yango
na bamonastere – ndenge bazali koloba – na likolo ya Alpes.

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Sikoyo moto akoki kokanisa ete tokoki
kokuta yango lisusu na Alexandrie …

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To na Italie.

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… to na Sicile. Elingi koloba na bamonastere na likolo ya Alpes.

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Yango wana, yango nyonso ezali makambo oyo esalaka ete makanisi
ya kokamwa ebima makasi ete ye moko akomaki yango to apesaki

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ndingisa ete bakoma yango – mpe azwaki mbongo mingi na yango.

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Mwana na ye mpe azwaki libula, mikanda ya kala
mingi, oyo akokaki kobimisa yango na nsima …

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Yango wana, bazalaki kosala mpo na mikolo ekoya, –
nakoki koloba – bazalaki kosala mpo na zando oyo ebandaki

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kobima, mpe moto akokaki kozwa mbongo mingi na yango.

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Kozwa mbongo ezali mpe likambo.

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Yo moko ozali mokomi. Ozali na boyokani na bapubliye.

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Ndenge nini ezali kuna? Ozali kolakisa
makanisi oyo ebele ya bato bazali na yango te.

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Emonanaka ete yango ezali pete te.

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Iyo. Yango wana ezali kaka mpo na bajaninalisite mpe babloggeur
te, ezali mpe mpo na bato lokola ngai, oyo bazali kolakisa

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makanisi ya ebele te, oyo bazali kosala
bolukiluki na polele, na libaku ya bopusi nyonso

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mpe na bopesi nzela na bilembeteli ya siansi.

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Mpe soki moto akomi na kritiki ya ebongiseli, mpo
azali na ntembe mingi mpe asengeli kotiya makambo mingi

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na ntembe, yango wana ezali pete te, mpenza pete te.

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Moko ya makambo ezali ya digital, yango wana esengeli
kobanga ete ekimá mbala moko. Yo mpe okutanaki na yango.

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Ezali na ba vidéo, mbula mwa moke eleká ezalaki mingi, mpe moto
amekaka kofungola yango kasi écran etikalaka na langi ya putulu.

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To ezalaka na ba lignes, okokaki lisusu kornona
yango te to ekutamaka lisusu te mpe bongo na bongo.

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Yango wana na makambo ya digital ezalaka mpasi mingi.

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Ba e-books oyo moto akitisaka,
afutaka yango, kasi azali na yango te.

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Bapropriétaire ya ba droits ya e-book bakoki ntango
nyonso kolimwisa compte oyo moto azali kosala mpe kofuta,

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bakoki kolimwisa yango to kosalela yango to kozongisa yango.

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Yango wana, moto azalaka propriétaire ya solo te ndenge
ezalaka na buku, esika nakoki kobomba buku mpo na mikolo ekoya

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mpe mpo na libota oyo ekoya to kokaba yango to ndenge nyonso.

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Yango wana tosalaki likambo ete Gerd na Renate Reuther babimisa
na digital te, ba e-books te, kasi tosalaka babuku na papye.

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Mpe liboso ya Corona tozalaki na problème, soki moto
asalaka na likanisi ya bato mingi te, kasi asalaka

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recherche ya solo, ete ba éditeurs ya minene baboyaka noki.

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Nasengeli koloba ete, ezalaka mpasi
ntango nyonso kokɔtisa buku na éditeur monene.

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Yango wana, esengeli moto akanisa mabe mbala moko te.

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Kasi ezali bongo ete moto atikalaka na ba éditeurs mike.

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Mpe ba éditeurs mike bazalaka na dépenses ya likolo.

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Nsima ya Corona bazwaki papye te mbala moko, ndakisa.

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Yango wana yango ezalaki problème ya
liboso. Ndenge nini nakoki kobimisa buku lisusu?

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Imprimeur azwaka papye te, éditeur akoki kobimisa yango te.

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Mpe na nsima, bien sûr, solution: Iyo,
moto azwaka papye, kasi efutaka mbongo mingi.

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Mpe mpo na embongisá moke oyo ebimisaka búku na
motángo moke, biloko nyonso ekómaka ntalo mingi koleka.

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Yango wana búku mike ya embongisá moke ezali
ntalo koleka oyo ebimisami na motángo mingi.

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Mpe mpo na bambongisá mosusu
minene, yango ezalaka pete mingi koleka.

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Mpo mbala mingi bazalaka basangani ya
mosala to bazali ya usine moko ya papye.

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Yango elingi koloba ete bazali na nzela ya
kitoko, esengeli te bábanga mpo na papye.

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Mpe sikoyo UE – oyo ezalaka na makanisi ya kitoko tango
nyonso – ekanaki ete esengeli kolakisa epai papye ewuti.

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Mpe embongisá ezali na mokumba ya kolakisa ete papye oyo
esalelami na esika ya kobimisa búku – ata soki ya

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solosolo ekoki te kokamba yango – ete ekátámákí na ndenge
ebongisami mpo na bonsomi ya zamba mpe ekokani na ekologia.

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Mpo na yango, esengeli kolakisa mpo na lokasa moko na moko ya
papye epai nzete yango ekátámákí, elongo na ba coordonnées GPS.

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Mpe okoki kokanisa ete ba esika ya kobimisa búku yango to liboso
ba usine ya papye, oyo ezalaka liboso, yango

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ezalaka mbala mingi ba konzern ya Europe mobimba to ya
mokili mobimba, bazwaka banzete na mokili mobimba.

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Mpe na yango embongisá moke esengeli kolakisa ete mpo na
eteni moko na moko ya búku, ewuti na eteni nini ya zamba.

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Yango ezali mokumba monene mpenza. Bafuti ya
mbeba ezalaka ya koboma bomoi, yango toyebi yango.

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Kasi yango ezali likambo ya kozanga ntina, mpo soki nakosomba
mafuta ya nzoi na Lidl, ekomami ete „ewuti na

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mikili ya UE mpe oyo ezali te na UE“ – yango
elingi koloba ete esalemi esika moko na mokili.

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Ya solo mpenza.

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Mpe yango naliaka yango, kasi
búku, yango naliaka yango ata moke te.

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Iyo. Iyo, kasi ezali produkɛ ya likama mingi mpenza,
yango wana esengeli kolanda na bokebi mingi epai papye ewuti.

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Mpe kuna mpe, na bongo, moto akoki kozipa nsinga ya
boluki mpe koloba: „Basalelaki papye oyo bakataki

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nzete na mobeko te...“ – nani ayebi, soki ozali wana.

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Mpe na bongo esili, bakobwaka yo libanda
to ozali kozwa etumbu ya koboma bomoi.

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Mpe yango nyonso ekokoba, mpo ete buku ezali eloko ya
likama, esengeli ete ebebisama na ndenge ya malamu.

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Mpe mpo na yango ezali na mobeko ya EU, sikawa éditeur
esengeli kolakisa, mpe mpo na éditeur moke yango ezali

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na bureaucratie mpe mbongo mingi koleka éditeur monene.

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Esengeli kolakisa ete ebombami na ndenge ya
écologie mpe ebebisami na ndenge ya écologie.

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Mpe yango ezali mpasi mingi, soki éditeur ya Allemagne, ndakisa,
atindi mikanda na France to Angleterre to esika

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mosusu, esengeli ete afuta agent na mboka wana, oyo
akotala mpe akondimisa ete buku ezali na bilembo ya malamu.

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Yango wana, esengeli ete ezala na nkombo ya mosalisi, mpe ye moko
na nkombo na ye andimisa mpe azala na mokumba, mpe agent andimisa

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mpe azala na mokumba ete buku ebebisami na ndenge ya malamu.

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Atako ya solo, moto akoki kotala te oyo mosaleli akosala na buku.

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Kasi lokola sikawa mpo na mboka nyonso, soki éditeur moke
azali na mituna mitano na mobu, ndakisa mibale ya Paris mpe

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moko ya Stockholm, esengeli ete afuta agent na esika nyonso.

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Yango wana, bureaucratie eleki ndelo
mpe yango ezali mpe mpo na biloko mosusu.

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Kasi mpo na ngai sikawa ezali buku, mpe ezali
komonana ete ezali koluka lisusu ndenge mosusu, koleka

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kaka kosala ete nyonso ezala na ndenge ya écologie.

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Mpe yango ezali lisusu kosalisa ba konzern
monene mpe ba entreprise mpe bafuti mbongo.

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Ya solo. Mpe na sima bato ebele bakoloba, ya, na sima
nakotinda lisusu buku ya papye te, ekokoma kaka e-book.

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Mpe na sima nazali na buku na kati ya bokoki mobimba
ya ba tech-gigantes to ndenge nini tokoki kobenga bango,

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baye bazali na sima ya ba systemes ya digital nyonso.

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Mpe kala bato bazalaki kokanisa ete buku ezali
likama mpe bazalaki kopelisa yango, kozikisa yango na

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ba scheiterhaufen, ba auteur mosusu elongo na yango.

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Mpe sikoyo tozali na ba scheiterhaufen
ya moto ya makasi na mokili ya digital.

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Ba buku ekoki kolimwa, bakozua yango mpe auteur
mpe mbala ebele ezali ndenge moko, alimwi tango

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buku ezali te na katalog, yango ezali kotala te.

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Mpe na sima moto moko te akoki kozwa yango mpe
moto moko te akoki kotanga yango. Ata buku

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ezali lokola exemplaire ya solosolo esika moko.

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Mpe na mawa nazali kornona ete, Gerd na
Renate Reuther bazali te na ba katalog nyonso.

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Bazali na Bibliothèque Nationale, kuna tozalaki kotala ntango
nyonso, yango esengeli kosala yango, esali yango naino,

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kasi ba bibliothèques mosusu, ba bibliothèques ya
engumba, ba bibliothèques ya mboka basalaka yango lisusu te.

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Tomonaki mpe, oyo ezalaki ya solo kala, ete ba bibliothèques ya
mboka ndenge na ndenge bazalaki kosomba ba buku na biso ya

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mayele, ete mbala mosusu bibliothèque moko to mosusu
ekoki kozwa yango malamu te, yango ezalaki na buku

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mbala mosusu pona ndambo ya mbula mpe na sima elalaki.

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To natalaki mpe na bibliothèque ya mboka, tii sikoyo,
tango nakotisa nkombo na ngai to nkombo ya buku, yango

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elobaka: «Ya solo, na nse ya signature okoki kosomba yango.»

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Uta mwa ntango molai, ezali boye, tango nalukaka na katalogo ya
bibliotɛkɛ ya mboka, nasengeli komikomisa, nasengeli kolakisa ete

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nakoki kozala na mposa ya buku moko to mosusu ya likama monene.

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Mpe na ntina ya nkombo na ngai, ekoki kozala
ete, kasi na makambo nyonso te, kasi namonaki

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yango, ete ebimeli ebele ekoya, 500 ya ebimeli.

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Ekoki kozala ete buku na ngai moko kaka, oyo nalukaki, ezali
na kati ya 500 ya ebimeli wana, kasi nani akotala yango nyonso?

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Yango wana ekoki kozala na nzela ya nkuku kaka, kasi ezali
kosalama ete buku na ngai ekutana te to buku na ngai esomba te.

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Mpe na mawa, esengeli koloba ete, bibliotɛkɛ mpe basaleli ya
bibliotɛkɛ mpe bandako ya buku bazali kosala elongo na yango.

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Moto akoki kokanisa ete bandako ya buku ezali na ngambo
ya bakomi, balingi koteka buku, nde tokoki kokanisa bongo.

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Kasi na mawa nayokaki biyano uta na batangi, oyo mpo na ntina
moko, na lisukulu to na nini, bayokaki na ntina ya buku ya Gerd

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na Renate Reuther, yango wana bakomi kokende na ndako ya buku oyo
bazali kotiya elikya na yango, nalobi bongo, mpe bazali kozonga,

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nayokaka yango na makambo moke – ya solo mingi
te – kasi ete na ndako ya buku balobi ete buku

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ezali te to buku ekoki kozwa te, oyo ezali solo te.

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Buku ezali, editeur na biso azali kolanda
yango mingi, azali kobimisa yango ntango nyonso.

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Yango wana, buku ezali, kasi ezali
kosalama, na ndambo, lokola ezali te.

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Mpe wana ezali eloko mosusu moke, oyo
nalingi kolobela na ntina ya digital.

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VG WORT – nayebi te soki oyoki yango, yango ezali
lingomba moko oyo esengeli kobatela makoki ya

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bakomi, lokola GEMA , oyo eyebani mingi mpo na miziki.

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Yango wana, VG WORT ezali na mokano, nakani mbula
mibale, etyá mobeko ya sika, okoki kokimela yango, kasi

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ngai nayebi te ekozala mingi boni. Ngai nakimelaki yango.

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Mobeko ya sika ezali boye: Buku nyonso oyo mokomi
abimisi na Allemagne, misala nyonso, mpe oyo

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esakolami na VG WORT, ekoki koskanama na automatiki.

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Mikanda oyo eskanami ekoki kosalelama na AI ntango nyonso na
ndenge nyonso, mpe biloko oyo eskanami, mikanda – elingi koloba

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bomengo ya makanisi na ngai, mikanda, makambo ya solo, nsango,
oyo nasalaki mikolo mpe sanza mingi, oyo nasalaki lisusu mpo na

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kokoma yango kitoko to mpo ete motangi atanga yango – mikanda
yango AI ezali kaka kozwa yango mpe, mpe yango

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ezali kaka ete, ekoki kolekisama epai ya bato mosusu –
mpe mpo na yango ezali „liberté ya responsabilité“.

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Na ntina, yango elingi koloba ete moto nyonso oyo azali na accès
na AI yango, akoki kokopi mikanda na ngai,

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kobimisa yango na nkombo na ye to kosala
yango nyonso, mpe ngai nakoki kosala eloko te.

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Mpo na liboso, liberté ya responsabilité – bato mosusu lokola
ntango nyonso, oyo bazali kosala na bomengo ya makanisi na ngai…

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Mpe likambo ya mabe ezali ete, yango nyonso ezali kotambwisama
mpe ezali na responsabilité ya VG WORT,

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lingomba moko oyo ngai nasengeli kofuta yango
mbongo mpe oyo esengeli kobatela matomba na ngai.

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Lolenge ndenge nalobaki, na tango oyo moko akoki kokimba, kasi
nayokaki ete bakomi bazali kozua yango na mokongo mpasi te mpe

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bazali kokanisa yango malamu te, kasi soki yango esalemi mingi
mpe ezali kokoba mikolo nyonso na ba tech géants mpe mokili ya

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digital, nayebi mpenza te, ya solo, moto akoki kokutana te na
babuku ya AI oyo esalemi na ntalo moke, oyo ezali kitoko lokola

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mosala ya mayele oyo esalemi na mpasi, na lolenge ya
koluka mpe koyekola, mosala ya siansi to ya

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zulunalo to ya istware to ndenge nini okoki kornona yango.

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Ee, yango ezali libunga ya solo.

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Na lisolo moko mpe, ezali kokoba moke,
olobaki na ntina ya "auto-censure", ete okoki

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kokoma na ba éditeurs, ete okoki kobimisa babuku.

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Obengaki yango "batekniki ya mayele ya komekame ya
nkuku", mpe motuna na ngai: mpo na nini yango esengeli?

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Tozali na sosiete ya bonsomi, na ndenge balobaka.

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Yango mpe ezali lisoló ya kɔkɔ, oyo
tosengeli koleka yango malembe malembe.

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Namonaki mpe ba chocs nyonso oyo na mibu ya suka, mingi mingi na
mibu mitano to motoba ya suka, tango moto amonaki biloko nyonso

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ekweyaka, tango bakanisaki ete yango ezali ba piliers ya
sosiete na biso, ete mapɔnɔ ebebisamaka te, ete tozali na

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bonsomi ya koloba, bonsomi ya siansi, bonsomi ya makanisi.

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Kasi tomonaka na bisika nyonso, bazali
kobongola. Mpe yango ezali lisusu ndenge tozalaki

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kozela yango na mibu zomi to ntuku mibale eleki te.

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Mpe soki moko alingi kaka kosala mosala lokola mokomi ya nsango
ya kimpwanza, molukiluki ya kimpwanza to nini, bakoboya ye,

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nazali na ndakisa mingi, esika nyonso bazali
komeka kokanga, kokamba, kosala sensure, na

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nsuka moko moko asalaka sensure ye moko, polele.

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Moto amitunaka, nakoki kaka kosala likambo ya ndenge wana?

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To amitunaka, nakoki koloba polele nyonso oyo nazwaki?

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Nazali koloba kaka likambo ya mangwele. Wana,
na ngambo nyonso, bafungolaki bibenga ya likolo.

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Mpe esengeli komituna, bakomema ba titre nini.

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Mpe okoki te kokotisa editele na mpasi to editele ye moko.

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Kosalela bokebi moke na oyo osalaka.

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Yango ezali, na ngambo nyonso, ekómí mpasi koleka.

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Mpe ba mpasi ekómí likolo. Kasi esengeli totikala na bosolo.

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Esengeli toluka bosolo. Bango
basalaka yango, biso tosalaka yango.

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Mpe nakanisi, ndenge bato ebele bazali kokanisa kolakisa, na
bokabwani wana kati ya kimpwanza oyo balobaka mpe

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biteni ya kimpwanza ya solo mpe bopagano ya kokamba oyo
ezali zingazinga na biso, ndenge boyebi ezali mingi.

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Mpe boyebi ezali ntina ya nyonso.

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Mpe okoki te kofanda na kimia na mokili ya lokuta na
konsiansi malamu to ata na elikya ya mikolo ekoya.

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Lokola bomoi oyo ezali zingazinga mpe etondi na lokuta,
ekoki te kozala bomoi ya kitoko. Nakoki kokanisa yango te.

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Ezali mpe likambo wana, bomoi ya solo ezali te na kati ya lokuta.

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Mpe ata soki ozali na ntembe te ete
oyo osalaka ekokoma, esengeli komeka.

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Mpe biso ezali sikoyo, Gerd na Renate Reuther, telema mpo na
ntembe ya seko, ete moto azala na ntembe mpe alobela ntembe wana

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mpe aloba: „Ya solo, yango ezali lokola lisoló oyo bazali koyebisa
ngai, ekokani te na mayele na ngai ya mokili, ya bomoi na

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ngai to na oyo nazali koluka, na oyo nazali kozwa lokola mbuma.“

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Mpe nakoki kosala yango kaka, bino bosalaka yango mpe nakoki kaka
kobenga bato mosusu nyonso, ete bábanga mingi te liboso,

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mpo moto oyo azali na ntembe, yango ezalaki buku na biso ya
suka mpe ya sika: „Moto oyo azali na ntembe, asili kolonga“.

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Mpo, ntembe nyonso efungolaka ndako. Ntango
nazali na ntembe na likambo, namonaka makambo mibale.

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Namonaka oyo bazali koloba na polele to oyo nazalaki
kondima banda kala, mpe na ntembe namonaka nzela mosusu.

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Yango ebangisaka bato mingi, epesaka bango
bobangi, mpo elongolaka bango kimya mpe solo, kasi

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efungolaka mpe ndako. Nazali na makambo mibale ya kopona.

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Nakoki kopona moko to namona ndakisa ya boyokani na kati, kasi
nazali kokanisa ete moto asengeli komona bofungoli ya ndako na

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ntembe — kaka te lokola likambo oyo ebebisaka kimya na ngai mpe
epesaka ngai bobangi, kasi lokola likambo oyo elongolaka

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ngai na mikumba, na lokuta mpe na bosolo ya lokuta mpe na
makambo nyonso oyo bapesaki ngai, ete nakanguka na yango.

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Mpe ntembe nyonso ezali etape ya kokanguka,
soki tokoki koloba yango na monene, ya solo.

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Mpe yango ekoki kozala na makambo mingi ya moke, makambo
ya moke ya mokolo na mokolo, kasi kaka koloba, nakondima

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yango te, nakosala yango kaka bongo te, nakokanisa liboso.

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Yango ya solo efungolaka mokili ya sika mobimba.

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Maloba ya kitoko, ee. Bino
bosolaki mpe na ntina ya koboma mikanda.

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Bino bozali na likanisi mosusu mpo na batali?

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Ezali moke te ya kokoka na mbongo
ya kosala bibliotɛkɛ na ye moko.

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Balobaka ete digital ezali mabe, moto azali na
yango ya solo te, mpe yango mpe ekokani na

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agenda ya WEF mobimba ete moto azala na eloko te.

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Nini ekoki kosalama? Ndenge nini tokoki
kobatela boyebi mpo na libota ya mikolo ekoya?

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Iyo. Ezalaki na film oyo, "Fahrenheit 451" , epai bato bayekolaki
mikanda na motu mobimba, mpo bakonzi babebisaki mikanda.

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Ezalaki leta oyo elingaki kornona mikanda lisusu te.

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Mpe na sima bato mosusu balobaki ete, kasi
tosengeli kobikisa mikanda mpo na libota ya

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mikolo ekoya mpe bayekolaki yango na motu mobimba.

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Wana ezali utopie ya makasi mingi. Nalobi yango boye te.

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Kasi na ebandeli, yango esalisaka mpenza soki moto
asololaka na bato mosusu na mikanda oyo ye moko atangaki.

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Mpe na sima likanisi, esengeli ezala maloba ya motindo wana te,
kasi likanisi, mwango, ntina ya liboso ya mukanda

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wana, ya mokomi wana, epesamaka na bato mosusu. Yango
wana nazali kokanisa ete yango ezali na ntina mingi.

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Kotanga mikanda ye moko, ekoki kozwama na bibliotɛkɛ ndambu, to
na magazini ya mikanda, to eloko oyo ekoki kosalama ntango

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nyonso soki moto alingi kobomba mbongo – biso mpe tosalaka
yango, mpo tosengeli na mikanda mingi – kosomba mikanda ya kala.

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Ezali na ba entreprise oyo esalaka yango,
epesaka mikanda ya kala na ntalo ya moke.

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Yango ekoki kokoba. Kosomba, kasi, nasengeli
koloba: Kosomba mpe kobomba eloko ya kitoko koleka.

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Yango wana ezali nzela ya ntina. To mpe
kokoma eloko na papye mpe kobomba yango.

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Moto abosanaka makambo nyonso te,
mingi mingi soki akoli, abosanaka mingi.

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Mpe yango ezali mpe kitoko mpenza, moto asengeli kozala na
mikanda nyonso te – yango bazalaki kosala

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yango mingi liboso – bazalaki kokoma na nzela ya
ekuke mpe kobimisa yango mpe kobomba yango kaka.

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Mpe na yango, nakoki kolendisa system na bino moko na
Kla.TV, epai moto alobi ete, tosengeli kobomba

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yango na bisika ndenge na ndenge mpo ete yango ebunga te.

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Mpe moto nyonso oyo, ah nayebi te, azali na mikanda mitano
kaka na ndako, asengeli kozala na 5.000 te, kasi asalaki

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déjà mosala moko, soki 80 millions mpe mitano ya mikanda ezali.

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Moto asengeli kokanisa monene mpe
kobanda na moke, yango ekosalema.

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Maloba ya malamu mpenza.

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Matondo mingi, Mama Dr. Renate
Reuther, mpo na interview oyo ya kitoko.

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Matondo na bino.

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Ukraine, Russie, Israël, Gaza, USA, Iran –
tozali pene ya bitumba ya mokili mobimba ya misato?

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Na bitumba, liboso ya nyonso liwa ezali ya solo
mpe elongo na yango bokomi ya istware ya solo.

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Ntango bakonzi ya Europe bazali kotia mbongo na bibundeli
mpe na bibundeli na ndelo te, Kla.TV na baemisyo koleka 25.000

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emonisaki bapesi bitumba mpe ba méthodes na bango ya mabe.

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Bomba bokomi ya istware ya solo,
liboso ete ebongisama lisusu na lokuta.

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Ndenge nini? Finá sikoyo na lien na
description ya vidéo: www.kla.tv/2plus.

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Mpe bomba yo moko archive ya istware ya ofele
na motuya ya mosala ya milliard moko ya francs.

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Tondisa sikoyo formulaire mpe ozali kozwa disque ya ofele ya
exklusif moko moko na maboko ya mosali ya Kla.TV ya région na yo.

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Ya solo ofele? Ya solo. Ntalo kaka moko ezali ete
osunga, kopya archive oyo ya istware ya kokamwa

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mpe kopesa yango ofele na ba contacts misato mosusu.

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Bikisa elongo na biso mokili oyo.