Lawyer Maria Vasii and Witnesses: More than €400 billion EU money for Corona-Contract-Killing and Money Laundering

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14.06.2025 | www.kla.tv/37941

[Interviewer:] So we're very pleased to be joined today by a very special person, Maria Vasii from Romania. She's a lawyer and is actually the lawyer of Călin Georgescu, one of the current presidential candidates. And she has been working extensively on uncovering the COVID crimes that happened during the COVID period, especially the death protocol and all the money flows involved with that. And Maria, thanks very much for joining us, for being here. [Maria Vasii:] Thank you for the invitation. [Interviewer:] And you're involved in quite a few investigations at the moment. Which investigations are ongoing? Could you give us a little overview about that? [Maria Vasii:] The first investigation we opened in the international court in The Hague and the second investigation we opened with the prosecutor in Vienna. Because in Vienna the prosecutor is competent in when it comes to the main person, involved in this protocol of death. [Interviewer:] Wow. Which person is that, if I may ask? [Maria Vasii:] Concerning the pandemic situation, first of all, we think the responsibility is in the hands of the high official who works in the European Commission. Because this commission prepared the rule of law to permit death according to the „protocol of death“, and also to permitted huge fraud with this justification. For example they used European money for the emergency situation according to pandemic rules. [Interviewer:] Wow. Now, you mentioned the European Commission and their involvement in all of this. And I want to ask you, like, at the very beginning, before the pandemic even started, there were consulting companies, you told me about, who were involved. And now I want to ask you, what role did these consulting firms play in bringing this whole pandemic machinery, basically, into play? [Maria Vasii:] I know it's a sensitive matter, and it's so difficult for me to make this accusation. But I have this right, because I have evidence. That means I can show it to you and I will present this evidence. Before the pandemic time, that means before April 2020, the European Commission, contracted a accounting firm, an Austrian accounting firm, which was involved in consulting. And according to this consulting, the European Commission prepared a law; that means a law which broke the European law regulating public acquisition. And I say that in according to my ideas, this entity, that means the consulting firm, was in a huge conflict of interest. Why? Because they prepared this law for the European Commission. And also during the pandemic time, this company offered consulting for pharmaceutical companies. And also in the final period of the pandemic time, they were the company who made a final report about the situation of these pharma companies. And they say in this report: 'Everything was done okay. There was no mistake in the way how they used huge amount of money for this reason to use in pandemic time.' And according to our evidence, the situation in fact was completely different. This pandemic time, first of all, offered just dirty rules for the pharmaceutical company to obtain money. And in accordance with my evidence, I can tell you, that it was just a model for business and for making money. [Interviewer:] Now, when you speak about these consulting firms supporting the European Commission or the European Union to craft laws, when did they start to cooperate on this whole pandemic thing? [Maria Vasii:] As the documentation shows that I can present in the End of 2019, they were involved in the matter of creating a law for the European Commission and also they used this rule of law in their activities during the pandemic, because they created laws, they created rules of law, they created the rules which broke the procedure. And also, they were consultants for the pharmaceutical companies. According to rules of law, this is not possible, because it's a huge conflict of interest. And when the prosecutors check this according to evidence, I'm sure the conclusion will be what I‘m telling you: that is; nothing was legal. [Interviewer:] Right. So how is this law that the European Union then brought out in April, I guess, how was it breaking rules? Or what kind of situation did it create? [Maria Vasii:] I will also present an official journal of the European Union. This particular document, describes rules for the European Countries - how they can change the procedure if there are many deaths. (Emergency funds could be acquired if there were many deaths.) That means in according to the amount of deaths the company can receive money. This is incredible and it's not possible to forgive and forget this, because it's very illegal to offer this incentivising connection between deaths and money. According to my evidence I can tell you: these crazy rules of law emitted by the European Commission and each country in internal law, they put appearance of law, that means they created in law an opportunity to give to the company a direct contract, opportunity to obtain a huge amount of money. And we are talking here about 100s of millions of euros per contract just because one day before the hospital reported many deaths. And according to my evidence, for doctors and for nurses, they were supposed to just report many deaths and not to report the persons who could leave the hospital in good health. And for that the prosecutor now has a very, very important job to investigate how the doctors, the nurses respected the medical rules of practice and how they applied the protocol. And according to my evidence, this protocol was a protocol to produce death, not for restoring a good health. [Interviewer:] Yeah, we'll go into that protocol in a minute. But maybe just to summarize: The European Union hired a consulting firm sometime in 2019, end of 2019. They made a plan how to basically create an incentive for hospitals to get a lot of money if they could present a lot of deaths, so to speak. The more deaths, the more money they got. That's how I understood this. [Maria Vasii:] Yes. [Interviewer:] And then the European Commission, the European Union put that in a law, published that law or brought it out in April of 2020, all the countries, of course, in the European Union have to adopt that law into their national law. And so this whole 'show me deaths and I‘ll give you money' – scheme was built up. Now, speaking of this money that was flowing, which you say was hundreds of millions; did the European Union provide the funding for this money or where did the money come from, which flowed to the hospital? When they said: 'Hey, look, I have so many deaths.' Where did the money come from to the hospital? Who gave the money? You know that? [Maria Vasii:] The European Union Commission for Budget offered, according to my evidence, more than four hundred Billion Euros for this matter. But also at the international level there were many other sources of money. And sure, it could be something positive if the society creates a huge amount of money to protect life. But as you will see when you check the evidence, this amount of money goes to the pharmaceutical companies. And for the other dirty persons involved in this process, but not really for the (sick) people because according to our evidence, for example in the hospital in Arad, they managed (to get) more than two billion euros for a little town! I can tell you that this was for approximately 500 persons in hospital but, just three survivors. [Interviewer:] Three out of 500 people survived? [Maria Vasii:] Yes! So, then we can add this up and see that two billion were involved and (only) three people survived. One survivor is my client K., and you received his testimony: He survived only because he tried and he was in a position to leave the hospital without permission from the doctors. That is the reason he survived. But he's destroyed because the protocols destroyed his health. And like I do, one can study the evidence, the prosecutor can examine and experts can tell you if this money could be used in a better way, than the way it was. [Interviewer:] Just to get the amount of money right (correct), which came from the European Union: you said 400 million. [Maria Vasii:] Yes [Interviewer:] I believe you mean billion [Maria Vasii:] Yes, billion – billion! Interviewer (12:08): That is a huge amount of money! And then this hospital gets two billion alone, to cure the people it seems, but - now speaking about how the people were treated with the money that was given to the hospital – you stated that WHO protocols were unfounded and contributed to the deaths. Can you elaborate on that? [Maria Vasii:] I have evidence I‘m representing three families in this trial. Each of these families lost a loved person because of these protocols and I have gathered expertise, medical expertise. I have opinions of the experts and these opinions tell us about the mechanism to determine the reason for the deaths of these persons. [Interviewer:] Wow! So when we speak about the death protocols - what did the people get there? I mean did they get drugs that were really actually helping them? Or what kind of things were being used there?… [Maria Vasii:] More than this treatment because the doctors and the nurses certainly were presented in the media as our heroes and maybe they were heroes for many cases. But in the cases of my clients it was a different situation: meaning that they were kept in a hospital against their wish. Because in each case the person asked for help from the family; saying, ‚Please, come here, because it's not a hospital here it's like a federal prison!‘ It's difficult! But the families did not understand this appeal they were told it may be because of the virus but my maybe because of the difficulty of the infection. But in fact we checked it now and we have proof that it was a difficult situation in the hospital. [Interviewer:] Wow! And yeah if you say that out of 500 people who died in this Covid ward of the hospital, only three survived, who are your clients now, that shows that there definitely was not good treatment there over the years! [Maria Vasii:] Yes, we have also internal investigation for three suspects. We have a civil case also in court we won in court. Now there is an investigation going on against the doctors against the nurses. One of the doctors who gave wrong treatment now left Romania. According to my information now she tried to escape and is in another country we don't know where. But her attitude clearly shows that she knows what to expect. She knows. She knows that what really happened will be in a file and the conclusion will have the worst consequences. [Interviewer:] Can you just give us a little overview of what this court case that you won was about - what the content of the case was? [Maria Vasii:] This was a case concerning this treatment given by a doctor in a hospital for the case „Serbo“. And according to the evidence, because here we are talking about a file with hundreds of pages of documentation, not just our feeling - and according to the evidence what happened in the hospital was really like in a war. Like in a war where there isn‘t any respect, nor any rules, just a fight for death. Just the fight to record one point in the file of the pharmaceutical company in order to obtain a direct contract and according to these crazy rules. [Interviewer:] Wow! Yes. You mentioned this these crazy rules and you call it a massive fraud in public procurement during the pandemic. What exactly did you discover? What was the fraud that happened – what happened with these rules? [Maria Vasii:] According to the evidence you will see for example one single company with unknown shareholders obtained more than 10 billion Euros! Just one company. Just one company. And the money goes to the Cayman Islands, the money goes to Cyprus, the money goes to Delaware where the first residential address is for this company. And it's incredible because if you check the documentation, for a lot of medical equipment that supposedly was sent to one town, there was not enough place for all this equipment – even if you would have filled a whole street. [Interviewer:] Okay. [Maria Vasii:] The quantity, that is mentioned in this documentation, it's totally crazy. It's not possible to say, not possible to manage a the amount of materials that could be bought for the price, that is mentioned in the documentation. Then the answer is easy: this was just a fake. That means that it wasn't real. This contract was just on paper and on a monetary account of a bank and not more. [Interviewer:] So the money flowed, but the material actually was so unrealistically large amounts that it never. . . [Maria Vasii:] In many cases, yes. [Interviewer:] … In many cases just didn't exist or wasn't administered or wasn't delivered. [Maria Vasii:] Yes, my experts gave us their opinion. It's in written and they have the authorization to make this conclusion. And this evidence now, it's at the office of the prosecutor. I ask myself why the prosecutors don't investigate this situation quickly because it's in your interest, in interest of the society to know exactly what happened in this pandemic. Because if you know, then you can check it for the future to not permit another situation like that. [Interviewer:] And you mentioned another case with Alliance Healthcare Romania. And them having direct contract awards. How is this relevant when we look at what you just explained? [Maria Vasii:] It's not just this company. According to our evidence now it was around 20 companies, not 100 companies, but more than 20 companies. [Interviewer:] 20 companies? [Maria Vasii:] A company received 100,000nds of contract. And this company, what you mentioned, in according to our evidence, received more than 200,000 contracts in direct acquisition. And I just, I give you just one example, but I can present details of this evidence. One of the contracts was an amount of 500 million euros. Just one contract. [Interviewer:] Wow, that's a lot. [Maria Vasii:] Just one contract. And the company has more than 200,000 contracts in direct acquisition. [Interviewer:] Well, either that money did a lot of stuff or they just got a lot of money and didn't do very much, right? [Maria Vasii:] I don't know details, but we have all the evidence. We need just an open mind of the prosecutor to investigate all this. [Interviewer:] Right. And when you speak about the money going to Cayman Islands and Delaware, what is the link between these procurements or all of these contracts and the money ending up in foreign destinations, or where did the money end up? [Maria Vasii:] In one company, an inland company, after our investigation, now the company no longer exists because the company closed its activity and now they were seen starting up in another new company. But with this company, Mediplus Exim there was one owner, an unknown owner, because we don't know according to our public evidence who is the owner, but they reside in Delaware, United States. And this company obtained a huge, huge amount of money. Money which goes like you understood to the Caymans, to Cyprus, to Delaware. And I am so, so curious who is behind this company because they collected the most important (biggest) part of the contract and benefited most in Romania. [Interviewer:] Okay. Did you do some investigations already into who is behind some of these companies? [Maria Vasii:] I don't have enough proof to give you a surety. Sure. I can present for you to investigate in the future. This company and this connection. I know it's a top name, working politically on an international level during the pandemic time. [Interviewer:] Wow. And so just to kind of summarize or give a little overview. So that means the European Union creates this law telling - incentivizing hospitals - basically stating that if you can show a lot of deaths, you'll get a lot of money. The more deaths, the more money flows. And the hospitals actually create these deaths through death protocols and the money flows and it flows to foreign companies in foreign countries. [Maria Vasii:] Yes, that's true. [Interviewer:] And if one contract is 500 million, and you have hundreds of thousands of them, then that gives a bit of an impression of what the scale of these money flows are. Isn't that taxpayers money that the European Union at least hands out? [Maria Vasii:] You touch a sensitive subject. Sure, you can understand more when you examine in particular the orders that were approved. So, no, the government, doesn‘t miss anything, this huge amount of money, because according to this consulting firm, who are very good in consulting for this company, they have protection and apparently legal protection to not pay taxes to the Romanian state or any country they were active in. [Interviewer:] Wow. And you said that this consulting firm, I don't know if you have any names you want to name… [Maria Vasii:] We have names. [Interviewer:]…but the consulting firm that basically mapped this out or helped the European Union and the pharmaceutical industries, they played a key role. And how was their role in auditing all of this procedure? Did they check on it? What did they come up with as a result? [Maria Vasii:] I have the courage to tell you that this consulting firm holds an important position, they are the main actor in this dirty game to create money and to create a dirty power behind official powers all over the world. I tell you that because in this mind - this dirty mind of the consulting firm, they prepared everything, every step before the pandemic time. And when I tell you that, I have my knowledge about the way - how they cover everything up. They put important contracts, for example, contracts for vaccines and contracts for important investments in medical technology, under article 346 of the European treaty, that means this is a legal basis for secret information, information put in connection with military strategy. That means if they say it, virus, it's with the biological source, then I ask you 'Why do they put the coronavirus on the level of biological weapons?' And then because they put under this secret matter - important documentation, they try to cover everything. Because for you, like journalists and important prosecutors, they don't have the right to investigate and to find what happened in reality in this connection because they don't have access to the real data. But what happened now on the international level, that means what happened with the initiative of Kash Patel, director of the FBI, was to open the secret source of information, I am sure in a short period of time, you will see what happened in reality in this pandemic time. [Interviewer:] And when you speak about the military being involved in all of this, do you have any examples or how were they involved in Romania on a military level in this whole pandemic scenario? [Maria Vasii:] Yes. Not just in Romania. In all the countries in the world, for example, the most important contract, I mean contract for vaccine, they are under these secret rules of law. [Interviewer:] Military secret. [Maria Vasii:] Yes. Military secret. Yes. [Interviewer:] Wow. That's crazy. And now looking at how you described all of this process, how would you summarize this - as a kind of a conclusion in your words that the layman can grasp it? [Maria Vasii:] I'm so, so happy because finally you as a journalist and the prosecutor offer your competence and with your knowledge you help to investigate this dramatic situation in a real way. And according to this new attitude and new feelings for the people in the face of this pandemic involvement, then I have very good expectations. And for our humanity it's time now to discuss according to truth! Because like that we can protect life. You can protect our children, our society. If you prefer to just be silent, then everything is lost because without your support, the prosecutor doesn't have the courage and necessary support to present to the public real facts and to present the conclusion. I know now in the European court the first investigation about the pandemic time is starting. Also in the international criminal court in The Hague we have a first decision according to reality. And they try to manage this investigation in a positive and good way. And also I want to inform you that in the international court in The Hague we have a group of experts, they work in Canada, in Montreal. They are more than a 1000 experts and they give their testimony about the pandemic time about the source of this virus. And I'm sure, according to this evidence the prosecutor won‘t have any other way but to tell you the truth, that means, make an indictment against the person who made this war against humanity during the pandemic time. [Interviewer:] Well, that sounds like some hopeful news there. You have also some investigations or cases going of your own in The Hague, I understand? [Maria Vasii:] Yes. [Interviewer:] Can you tell us a little bit about the status, what is happening at the moment? [Maria Vasii:] I know they opened a case but not a file, a real file, a real investigation. Now they are collecting evidence. Because our request is a request filed against an important person involved at a high level of the power-structure in Europe, I don't have very high expectations. Maybe if you, as a journalist start your investigation and find new evidence, maybe if you discuss about the subject then they have the courage to investigate this person. [Interviewer:] If there is some pressure coming. [Maria Vasii:] Right, yes! Yes, pressure according to law and according to truth and in this environment, now with what happened also in the United States, I think they can handle this in a good way. Of course, now between the United States and the International Criminal Court of The Hague there isn't a very good relationship. Because President Trump now publicly expressed his attitude against the Criminal Court due to the case concerning Gaza and Israel. But in spite of this, I have good expectations about this investigation because it's in the best interests of humanity to find out what happened. And for our investigation, I think because we present evidence, not just our allegations, but much evidence and also many expert voices, there could be a positive solution. [Interviewer:] That's interesting. So at the moment, the court in The Hague is still considering, or the case is still open, basically. Investigations are going on. [Maria Vasii:] It's still open, yes. [Interviewer:] Yes. Okay. Interesting. Now, maybe coming to the end, to wrap this up. There is one more question I wanted to ask you, and that is we have the presidential elections running in Romania. How is that all connected to this whole COVID machinery that happened? Can you give us a bit of an insight on that still, please? [Maria Vasii:] Thank you for your word, because you expressed exactly what happened. It's a machinery. It's a machinery to protect the fraud during the pandemic time. And in Romania unfortunately this machinery blocks the election process. Why? I‘ll tell you why that is? It is because in Romania an important political person was involved and the same people who have the power now in Romania – the administrative power, they block the independent candidate, Calin Georgescu in this process, and for a stupid reason. Now it‘s the second time that they blocked him from the election. It doesn't matter that our society needs him and that our society supports him a lot. They block him. Why ? Because Călin Georgescu expresses in many positions, official positions, his attitude against the fraud, against the dirty persons and dirty politics. And in this period of time, because they blocked him, new candidates rose up. And among these new candidates, one of them is the husband of the lady who was in the European Commission. And she was the connection between the European commission and the Romanian government when they approved and they put these crazy rules into internal national legislation: the crazy rules that created the conditions to obtain the money for the pharmaceutical company. And I don't have evidence now, but I‘ll tell you that according to my feeling during this period of time, I waited, I watched and I expect that this person with pharmaceutical money will come into power. Because I expected that they will try to put a person in power who can supress the investigation of this crime, this fraud and what's happened – the situation – because this person suddenly appeared and now he's in a position to obtain power in Romania. It doesn't matter if it's dirty rules, doesn't matter if they broke the election without a legal reason. It's our reality! For that, for us. It's so, so important. If you can handle your investigation to find the truth, not what I tell you, but find the truth and to find and bring to light this machinery to protecting this fraud committed during pandemic time. And I have still expectation that in Romania, we can come back to the legal electoral process for the future. [Interviewer:] Well, that is interesting. And now in this whole environment of them trying to cover up the fraud or the, you know, the people that committed this crime, trying to cover it up. What would be your final message to the people out there who see this interview? How can everybody, what part, what role can everybody play in this, that this crime comes to the light? [Maria Vasii:] For you and for your message here, according to your investigation, I have just, the feeling that I would like to tell you, thank you for your attention, for your time, for your knowledge, to be used according to the best for humanity. It's so, so important to discuss about this because, we have now, two sides of humanity. One side open for the Christian way, a positive expectation of life and other side, just for evil and for the destruction of the rules of our civilization. It is not anymore just the time to see on television what happened next-door to us. Now it's time to act. Now it's time to create new rules, to protect these rules because without this direct action, we don't have a good expectation for the future. It's really a dramatic time for humanity and it's time to, to be present, active in this… in this reality. [Interviewer:] Well said! Perfect. So Maria, that was really interesting up to this point. And, but I wanted to ask you a bit about – if you want to name us some names of companies, people involved in this whole scheme. [Maria Vasii:] Well, I represent our evidence and I will give it to you. [Interviewer:] Thank you! [Maria Vasii:] According to this, our evidence, I can express the name. [Interviewer:] Wow. [Maria Vasii:] The first name according to evidence, is Johannes Hahn. This is an official, involved in a European commission with a high level of power. That means he is president and a commissioner for budget. That means, according to his signature this amount of money goes to the pharmaceutical companies through the COVID situation they created through incentivising. [Interviewer:] If he is the president of the budget in the European Union he definitely will have to at least know about it. [Maria Vasii:] Yes and also in according to evidence I tell you the name who is under investigation as the accounting company that means Ernst & Young (EY), an Austrian company. This company has also a sister-company in Romania and they were involved in consulting when the European Commission created rules of law to change the legal way of public acquisition. And also this company was involved in final report about the way how the company uses money I think that means they close the law and the mechanism for this money laundering and also I have in my head the name of the company, one of the companies the company who was authorized initially in Delaware, United States. Because like you see this company received more than ten billion Euros just during two years in pandemic time in Romania and then it's not possible to interpret that in according to legal way this company can obtain a huge profit in this mechanism started in April 2020 and closed after three years, it's not possible. And for that I think now the investigation it's important to go in a better way under the prosecutor's activity also the experts in different matters that means the experts who can offer legal explanation, medical explanation in the pharmaceutical area and also in a matter of business. They can offer to the prosecutors an answer for all these strange things what was happening in pandemic times. [Interviewer:] Do you as a lawyer have a kind of a network of these experts that could help the prosecutor figure out everything? [Maria Vasii:] Yes, I have my experts and they give us explanation. That is why I have the courage to discuss about this. The explanations and the expertise now are in front of the prosecutors but I invite all our colleagues lawyers and the victims to apply directly in International Criminal Court in The Hague, because they have on my site, a website of the court application for victims. It's so easy; it's maybe less than 10 minutes to put all the information in there and if they apply, if they have had some damages during the pandemic time or maybe if they lost a member of their family, please apply. Because if we are together then it's sure the prosecutors are obliged to go and start about the investigation and close the investigation with an indictment. [Interviewer:] Wow that's a good point you brought up there. So that means everybody who was damaged can actually participate, at least in building up the pressure on the legal system to finally look into this, right? [Maria Vasii:] Yes because it's not just about what happened in the past. Like that we can protect our present, like that we can protect our future - because without this reaction, then the person - the dirty person who created this mechanism - can repeat this. [Interviewer:] Right. And is The Hague, the International Criminal Court, the go-to address or should people also go to other courts and raise complaints? [Maria Vasii:] It's enough if they apply in this court because it's an International court, this court has competence. Sure it's not so easy for the prosecutor to open an investigation against the European officials, because it's incredible for one country who is member of your European Union to commit this kind of crime. But it's real, it's real. It doesn't matter if we are in European Union or in Africa, it doesn't matter. The crime against humanity was true, was here and for that now it's time to investigate, it's time to conclude, it's time for the indictment. We have the right to protect our life and our society. We are so special, our God has created us for a good health for a good life not for the status of victims, this is not for human beings. [Interviewer:] Well that's very nicely said and I really thank you for exposing all of this for helping people to gain understanding of what happened to these crazy years of the pandemic. Are there any last words you want to say? Or do you think this is ok from your side? [Maria Vasii:] I prefer to offer to you evidence. I'm so curious and with very good expectation about your feeling when you understand everything, when you check it evidence because you understand it's more than I can say in my words about what was in reality. [Interviewer:] Well, thank you Maria very much for joining us today and thank you for your time today. Thank you for sharing all of this great content with us. [Maria Vasii:] Thank you. Now follows the testimony of Marian [Interviewer:] So, I have the pleasure to be sitting here with Marian from Romania, who has a pretty crazy story to tell about what he experienced during COVID. And Marian, thanks for being here. [Marian:] Hello. [Interviewer:] Hello. And I want to start off with this. You ended up in a hospital during COVID, but what were you doing before you came into the hospital? What's your background? [Marian:] Okay. Before I came into the hospital, maybe I had some cold and some temperature. It was not a heavy cold. Just two, three days of a cold. And the family doctor said it's better for you to do a COVID test. And this was positive. And after that, the whole story started. [Interviewer:] When was that? [Marian:] It was in the beginning of November 2020. [Interviewer:] Okay [Marian:] And some ambulance came to my home and took me to the hospital. [Interviewer:] Why did they come? [Marian:] To pick me up and take me and go with me to the hospital because persons with COVID were not allowed to go out onto the street or out of the apartment. It was necessary to isolate from other people. It was a period in which many people in Romania stayed isolated or captive at home. [Interviewer:] Yes, so you got the positive test from your normal doctor, and you stayed at home. [Marian:] Yes. And then somebody from hospital come to take me. My family doctor put in some system stating that I have a cold and they tested me. And after one day they came with the ambulance to take me to the hospital for another test to see if I have any other problems than Covid. Because in that period, it was very usual to see that persons who died had had co-morbidities, that means they had other problems with health. So it was said it was necessary to be observed in the hospital. I didn‘t have anything. When the ambulance came I was very jolly, had no temperature and did not have any Covid symptoms. I think I didn't have Covid; just a simple cold. And when I went to the hospital; they put me in some container, leave me there around three to four hours and after that, someone came to take some blood from my fingers, took my blood pressure and after another two hours somebody came and took a picture of my lungs. And, in this period, I didn't have water, I didn't have food, I didn't have a toilet! I just stayed in the container. But, after another few hours, some female doctor called me on my phone without seeing me face to face, or making a test or check up; saying you are a happy winner of a bed in the hospital. And, after that, I was put with my everyday clothes in some bed. I didn't have anything - any symptoms, nothing. I tried to explain to them: There is nothing wrong with me! I want to go home. “Oh no, it's necessary to stay minimum three days, and after that, we can see if you can go back". After the picture of my lungs was taken, some doctor said „Oh, it's very bad.“ And, I spoke with another doctor, who said „Oh, you don't have anything - I don't see you to have problems.“ But, it's… it's another problem. And, when I stayed there, I was obligated to take medications. Around 10 medications on one day, or maybe more. Part of them in the morning, and the rest in the evening. And the nurse stayed near to me to see that I take these. [Interviewer:] What were the worst medications you had to take? [Marian:] The problem is, I don't know what this medication was. I asked, what am I taking? „Oh, it's not your problem.“ This was the answer. And I was forced to take this. And after I had made some scandal that I will not take it if I don‘t get to see what it is. Some nurse came with the paper, small paper, and wrote something, but, on the medication, she didn‘t write anything. I don't know exactly what I took. But, after three days, I tried to go home. I told them: You said, I can go home. I don't have anything, please. „Oh, it‘s impossible - you are in bad shape, you can die! You have another big problem… What is in your head to want to go home!“ I didn't have any problem until then. I didn't have a high blood pressure, I didn't have diabetes. I didn‘t have anything. I was a healthy guy until then. And, they said, I have diabetes, and they tried to start to give me insulin. I said, it's impossible to start to give me insulin, because it's normal to start with some other medications for diabetes which just has started. „No, oh no, no, it's necessary to go with insulin!“ And they forced me to take insulin injections. I took insulin around one month in hospital, and right now, I have diabetes, Yes… they succeeded. [Interviewer:] They managed to cause it. [Marian:] Yes. And, this medicine made me to feel bad. It was not right. It felt like a poison. I had this feeling, my organism was poisoned. The nurse or every other day the doctor came ten minutes in the morning, gave medicines, and after that disappeared. And, they came in the night; in the evening, another ten minutes. They say, "isolation“, because it's a red area and they can get COVID. I didn't understand. It was not a problem for us. We had television, we were like being where old people stay… [Interviewer:] Old folks home. [Marian:] Yes, yes! But after two, three days… after three days, one of the people in the room died. And, this person said to me, „Please, give me water! I‘m going to die“. I tried to give him water. It was a very big shock for me, and I tried to maybe save, maybe, if it is possible to save… [Interviewer:] Reanimate? [Marian:] Reanimate, yes. And, on the doors was two phone numbers for the nurses and the doctors. I called and called and called. Nobody came. I kept calling. Nobody came. After three hours of calls, the doctors and nurses teams changed, another team came, and they came in our room. „Oh, what the problem? Tell us, what happened.“ This person died. I tried to call already… "Wow, what's happened?“ He died! I don't know exactly! Nobody came for three hours. It's not possible! What you want to say that in the emergency area of a hospital, somebody dies! „Oh, we are in a restricted area to recover from the red area. Okay…“ And, after the nurse went, two people, two guys from the infirmary came and put this man in a black bag. The guys were big like me. They did not succeed to put him in the bag. They tried from a hospital bed and pushed with the leg to put him in there. It was, was something unimaginable. Then some doctors came and said what‘s happening here. Take him out of the room and try to put him in the bag on the hallway. And after that, another guy died. And again nobody answers the phone. I tried to go to the nurses area and just tried to tell them. But, it was closed. The door was locked and the hospital personnel was behind the doors. [Interviewer:] Behind a locked door? [Marian:] So I shouted, I made noise. Nobody came. And in this area, I opened the doors and it was two to three degrees. It was the winter, and I got another cold. Ah, it was a bad cold. I got a fever and they just gave me Algocalmine; a fever reliever. Nothing happened… and they said, „Oh, this guy is dead.“ And prepared the black bag for me and put me in the area for the dead. As I collected from one nurse that I met with after all this: I was put on the dead people‘s list on that day. I was declared to be dead. I died in the hospital. [Interviewer:] Because you had a bit of a fever, some temperature. [Marian:] Yes, No… I had more than 42 degrees. [Interviewer:] Okay. [Marian:] And nobody did anything! And my wife called some guys from there and said: „For Marian‘s temperature to go down, it is necessary to put some water, cold water to…“ [Interviewer:] To cool… [Marian:] And, one man gave me some sheet… [Interviewer:] Cloth. [Marian:] Yeah, it was put on me. And after that, they took me to the AT area. In this hospital - it's a new hospital in Romania, with a lot of money. It's not possible to go from this section, pulmonary section, the lung section right to the AT section through the hospital – you have to go outside to get there. And, I was with the sheets on me… [Interviewer:] …cold water… [Marian:] … in diapers! I was wet! And when I went out in the bed with the.. [Interviewer:] Wheels? [Marian:] Wheels, exactly, in the yard of the hospital, I recovered completely! [Interviewer:] Okay! [Marian:] Yes! And when I arrived in the AT, I was normal. But, I was tied… [Interviewer:] Tied to the bed? [Marian:] tied on my hands and legs. But we're in the AT… [Interviewer:] Sorry to interject, but the two guys you described who died, were they on a ventilator? Did they get oxygen? [Marian:] No, no, no. No, they had nothing. No, no. I don't know exactly what happened with them. But I think, they had another problem – or the problem with were the medications given that were not compatible with life. And, they died in hospital after they came there. They did not look sick when they arrived. No, I don't know exactly the problem because these guys were put in the black bag, put in the grave, and that was it. And in AT, it was a protocol. And this protocol means to give you some medication and some, I don't know, substances. Because, after 30 minutes, I was unconscious.. I was unconscious... I don't know. And I woke up after three days. I don't even know exactly, if it was three days. But when I tried to move, I found that this hand was all black. And the legs too. Because I was tied strongly to the bed. And I slept on this side, on the left side. I tried to stay on the left side and this hand was completely black. Nobody saw me, it is not a problem for them. And I woke up with some infusions in my arms. [Interviewer:] Yeah. [Marian:] And after the one day, some doctors arrived - I‘m an engineer, and there‘s a joke about engineers, that they have he same loving look like a dog - and when they saw me and the look in my face the doctors said: „Oh, untie him. You can see, he‘s kind person, who doesn‘t make problems.“ And after that, I tried to regain some feeling in my hands and my legs, but (it was) very, very slow, very, just a little. The problem on AT was this protocol, because many people came, patients. But I spoke with them, I made jokes with them, I spoke like I'm speaking with you right now. And everything seemed okay. One woman was eating bananas and making jokes. And when the doctors came, made a few injections and put in the infusion and she passed out. [Interviewer:] Okay. She just fell asleep for a long time? [Marian:] By the evening, she was dead. [Interviewer:] Wow. [Marian:] Yes. This protocol, this is the reason. The medical personnel say the protocol is necessary, we need to apply this. And, this is the reason people die. I think. I don't know exactly what happened. But I have seen many people come, they looked fine. And after the protocol, they looked and felt bad. And some… most people… all died actually. [Interviewer:] How many people did you see die? [Marian:] I don't know exactly. After the two weeks, when I saw one new person, I said in my head, it's another dead person. I make a joke because they could walk. It's the walking dead. And, after some time, I understand: I am a dead person. But, I couldn‘t walk because I had an infusion in this arm. In the other I had the blood pressure tested, and oxygen saturation. [Interviewer:] Oxygen. [Marian:] I had a catheter for the urine. [Interviewer:] Wow. [Marian:] And this is unbelievable. Because, they put in just a short tube. And then it drained all the, the urine. But these bags, small bags, they did not reach onto the floor. It was in mid air. [Interviewer:] Was hanging. [Marian:] It's hanging, exactly. Hanging by my inside… [Interviewer:] That must have been super painful. [Marian:] Yes. And it's necessary to stay something like this (in a sideways position). Because when it was full with urine, nobody came to change. And, here on one side I had the infusion. And, on the other side were these urine bags. [Interviewer:] Oh, hell. Oh, hell. [Marian:] Yes. It was that. It was. [Interviewer:] Was that, when you say AT, was it a COVID specific ward? Or was it like… [Marian:] No. Just for COVID. [Interviewer:] Just for COVID. Just COVID patients were there. [Marian:] Just for COVID. Yes, it was named Red Area. Red Area. The joke is many people payed much money to go there, to be in this hospital because somebody told tell them… [Interviewer:] …it's a good hospital. [Marian:] Yes, it's the only hospital that can save them. But, it's not true because they died there. [Interviewer:] Okay, so if that was a pure COVID ward, how were the people being treated? I mean, we heard how you were being treated, but were there also people on oxygen masks and stuff? [Marian:] Yes, many people have a simple mask or a mask on the entire face. It was a problem because the oxygen is not right. I demonstrated it to the doctors. When I had an oxygen mask, the blood oxygen saturation was lower than without the mask. And when put on a full-face mask, all people were trying to escape and this is the reason they are tied up to the bed, yes. [Interviewer:] They just were tied up? [Marian:] Tied up, yes. All people were tied up. And for me, there was another problem: They gave me insulin, and I don't know exactly, they gave me glucose, sugar, it was madness. I stayed two weeks with treatment for COVID and after that, I don't have any medication, the protocol was ended after two weeks. [Interviewer:] Okay. [Marian:] Because the COVID infection lasts only for two weeks and after two weeks you are considered healthy. Okay. And after two weeks in hospital I needed three more days, it was necessary to stay because the doctor tried to receive money from my mother. He spoke with my mother. [Interviewer:] Okay. [Marian:] He spoke with my mother: „Oh, Marian is Okay, but some more medication is necessary and please come to discuss.“ This person wanted my mother to give him money. I want to say another thing: This hospital was near to the cemetery and my bed was on the. . . [Interviewer:] The window? [Marian:] Yeah. The window. And when I looked out the window, I saw the people who made holes for the new dead… [Interviewer:] Really? [Marian:] Yes. Yes. It was very scary. And at night, in the night, many people died in the night because nobody came... The doctors and the nurses all were having a big party. And nobody came to see what happened with the patients. [Interviewer:] How many people were in your room? [Marian:] Three or four. [Interviewer:] Did you all have to wear masks? [Marian:] No usually not. Just one person said, gave me a fight, when I didn't wear this mask… Because she said, I could pass on the COVID. And all the hospitals have nosocomial (infections), it's what some people catch in hospitals, it's very dangerous bacteria… [Interviewer:] Ah, yeah, the resistant bacteria that develops in hospitals. [Marian:] And I caught this, not only me, everybody. And after that, one of the symptoms is . . you're shitting yourself. And this is the smell of the dead. This is the reason the nurse comes and opens the window. And the opened window; it was one meter from my bed. I was just a little bit covered with something… [Interviewer:] With a sheet. It was winter. [Marian:] Yes. It was one degree… Yes, it was winter. One degree. There was snow out there. And I stayed for maybe two weeks with that open window. [Interviewer:] Oh, gosh. [Marian:] It was very, very scary to see the dead people there and to stay in the cold. And when I went out, I was lucky, because the doctor who took care of me, was on holiday or something. And they moved me back to the section with low problems. [Interviewer:] Yeah. Yeah. [Marian:] There were two types of doctors: bad doctors and good doctors. One of the good doctors gave me the papers to leave the hospital, and the problem was that... I had (this) bacteria. I had a problem with urine because I stopped all medication, as it was the protocol. If you want to go, it was necessary to stay to see for one day if you are okay without receiving anything. And, I started to have a high temperature. I started bleeding from all my holes. [Interviewer:] Pores… [Marian:] Seriously, yes. From everywhere. And I tried to cover this. And the doctor helped me – he didn‘t check me – didn‘t check the temperature, didn‘t check anything. [Interviewer:] He just let you go. [Marian:] And I could run… to go… to escape, exactly escape. I went bleeding with a high temperature from this hospital. But when I arrived at home, it took me about one month to recover, with antibiotics… [Interviewer:] One month. [Marian:] Yes, recover just from the hospital… just the problem with my hands remained, I don't feel three fingers. And I don't feel the legs from where I was tied up. But I try to… survive. [Interviewer:] You still don't feel them? [Marian:] Yes. If I take this glass… I'm right-handed, and in many cases, I feel just with two fingers. If I rely on my other fingers it happens that I drop my glass. I have this problem, but I try to drive with my left hand. I do everything with the left hand. And the hardest thing is to go to the toilet, and try to work with it. It‘s almost most impossible, but it's necessary. Now I‘m left-handed. [Interviewer:] My God. [Marian:] All heavy weights or something, I do with the left. And if I try to write, I write like a small child. [Interviewer:] It looks quite good! [Marian:] Yeah, I try to understand my own writing, because in most parts I don't understand what I wrote! [Interviewer:] How old were you when that happened? What was your age? [Marian:] 49. [Interviewer:] 49. How old were the patients who were there? Was it like young people, old people or mainly old people with co-morbidities? On that COVID station. [Marian:] No, all types, all types. Yes, some people were 30 or some were 70, but very, very few old people. Many were about 40 or 50, something like that. [Interviewer:] So, and you say in this COVID station, you were one of the few who actually survived. [Marian:] Yes, during that period, 500 people died. 500 people died, or to be precise, 497 people died, and only three escaped the AT. [Interviewer:] So, also people who were younger than you died? [Marian:] Yes, of course. Many people of all ages died. [Interviewer:] That‘s insane. [Marian:] And another woman I know escaped. It was the same with her, a big woman. Because they gave the same dose to everybody. [Interviewer:] The same doses for everybody. [Marian:] Exactly, for everybody. And they don't care if you have 70 kilos or 130. And that's the reason I escaped, I think. But I have luck, with my friends, with my wife. They called everybody. And in the night, some doctor came and whispered: „I'll do something good for you.“ It was the good doctor who came. It were two types of doctors. And another doctor came - I want to tell about this - and gave me Remdesivir. Or another came and I asked „What to put in this infusion?“ I can‘t say… you will see it. It will (make) you be happy!“ And afterward, I don't know exactly what was put, but I felt like I was floating! And it was nice. [Interviewer:] Okay. [Marian:] But, after the hospital, I don't know exactly if it‘s because of the medication, from Remdesivir, I have (developed) another big problem with blood pressure and with diabetes. I have big fluctuations. I have in one day, I have a sugar level of 550. The next day, I have 70. [Interviewer:] So you came out damaged. Really, and still damaged from this protocol. [Marian:] Yes, and the scary part was when my skin went out (peeled). All my skin… from the hands, from chest, from my hair… I have holes in my…. [Interviewer:] In the skin. [Marian:] I could just pull out whole tufts of my hair. Parts of my teeth broke off. All teeth are repaired. All my hair. [Interviewer:] Okay, my goodness. [Marian:] I ate bread, And some parts of the teeth came out . Yeah. It was scary. Very scary. [Interviewer:] All after this protocol. All after this protocol was done to you. [Marian:] Yes, yes, yes. I said in the beginning. I was a healthy man when I went. And after that, I came out with many health problems. And, in this time, I visited many doctors to see what's happened. What's the way to get better. And, all the doctors, when I told them that the symptoms appeared after the COVID medication. They said, „Oh, I can't tell you what's happened.“ „We can go…“. „I can't give you a recommendation.“ Or they give me some medication, like morphine. Or I take some… I don't know exactly from neurology, but after I take these pills, I see the rainbows in my head, in my home! And it was very nice. But 30 minutes later, I had to take my daughter to kindergarten. And, it's impossible to drive when you see the rainbows! [Interviewer:] Right. Right. So, No wonder that 500 people died of that, if you just barely survived. [Marian:] Yes, I have bad experience with these doctors. Nobody wants to tell you anything what has happened, what's happened with you. And one bad example: I went to check, like an echography, for the nerves that are terminal. Because, I don't feel this hand. I don't feel the legs. And, they put me on some machine, and tried, with electricity, to see with some frequency… [Interviewer:] Reflexes. [Marian:] With some frequency. And, they turned it up and up and up. And nothing happened. They said: „Oh, the machine is broken“. I said: I can check, I can test it. I put it on my other hand… and it was [Interviewer:] …flung away! [Marian:] Ya! Flung away. It‘s… I gave her… [Interviewer:] …a slap! [Marian:] Yeah! But, after the consultation ended, I said, „Okay, okay, that happened… it‘s not important. Tell me what‘s necessary to make me better. This is the reason I came to you.“ And this doctor was a university professor, and was in the Covid red area, and… [Interviewer:] Okay… [Marian:] … He said: „I don't know exactly but I think your nerves are terminated like old people at 80… maybe 90 years of age! What can you do with a man of 90 years? Go home and die.“ [Interviewer:] He told you that? [Marian:] Yes, yes! I have 90 years in these parts of my body, yes. [Interviewer:] Well, to wrap this up, I mean, you told me beforehand in our previous conversation that you experienced all this. You went out there and spoke about it. You wrote it down to warn other people to just document the crime that happened. And, and you're actually persecuted for doing that. You lost, I think two jobs right? [Marian:] Yes, yes. [Interviewer:] Just for sharing this story of yours. So, it seems that… why do you think that is? [Marian:] The people are scared. And, that‘s one problem. And another problem, the people are controlled from… I don't know exactly from whom. [Interviewer:] Right.. It feels like it, right? It feels like there's some kind of powerful control that doesn't want us to hear this. [Marian:] Yes, yes. the doctors are scared. The people are scared. And many people don't believe this. „Oh, this did not really happen! It's not possible to happen!“ and they don't believe me, that I have this problem. My relatives or my friends say „Oh, you are joking.“ Because when I try to speak serious about this, I start to cry. And I see the dead people there… in the morning all the dead in the hallway in the black, black bags… Right now, I see it in my eyes… It was, wow! Many people died. I couldn't do anything… Just look at them where they go. It's very, very troubling! Unfortunately, it‘s very bad, that I can‘t help them. I don't know. I can‘t do anything to help… And not one, not just one. Many people died. And right now this is the reason I come here despite the consequences it might have. Because, I know, I might have to start yet another new job or something like this. But, the big problem is my family. I am sure they are affected too. But, the people who died, the dead people deserve to… [Interviewer:] …have a voice. [Marian:] Exactly. To know the truth. That the truth is told. Because I was there and I'm maybe the last guy who knows. Who can come here to say something. Nobody else can. Because they died. . . [Interviewer:] Thank you for coming. Thank you for coming, Marian. Thank you for sharing this with us. It's a very, very touching testimony. And it shows how big the crime was. And we're glad you came. [Marian:] I can talk about that period. Maybe two entire days and another two more. But I think… this is enough for today. [Interviewer:] Thanks for sharing this. It gave a pretty good overview. And I hope the people hear the message that you sent out. You are the voice for the hundreds of people that were killed, were murdered in these hospitals with these protocols. And the people. . . [Marian:] Thousands in Romania. [Interviewer:] Yeah. Thousands. Thank you for sharing this with us. [Marian:] Thank you for listening. [Interviewer:] Thank you. [Marian:] Bye. [Interviewer:] Bye. Now follows the testimony of Marian and Adriana [Interviewer:] I'm really honoured to be here with Adriana and Marian from Romania. And the two of you, you're first hand witnesses of some horrible things that happened during the COVID response in Romania. And now, would you tell us about what was going on with these billions of Euros spent during this COVID response? [Adriana:] Yes. I can tell one thing that my mother was killed for money. I‘m sure. When she was in hospital, I don't know if she had COVID or no COVID, they didn't test her. And after she died, and when I saw the drugs, they administered to my mom, I was shocked. My family, too. [Interviewer:] What did they give her? [Adriana:] They gave her 44 substances. [Interviewer:] Wow. [Adriana:] 44. Mostly antivirals. Norvir, Darunavir, Remdesivir. But they don't know whether she had or didn‘t have COVID because they didn't test. In the hospital they made a false test on my mom on December 8th. She died on the 16th of December 2020. But she died because she wanted to come home and they didn't want to let her go home. She wasn't in the hospital all the time. She was in the hospital for 17 days. She did not have a fever she could breathe normally but we think this was some panic because she watched the TV a lot. She watched the TV, all media and she was scared I think and she panicked. I don‘t think she would have needed to go to the hospital for this. Because my mom had been a mathematics teacher for 50 years and she was a very healthy person mentally as well as physically she was very okay. And in the hospital they gave my mom drugs. They gave her Diazepam, Phenobarbital, Xanax, and they gave her a neuroleptic substance: Haloperidol. Every day in the morning at 10 o' clock, and in the evening at 10 o' clock, they gave it to her in a cocktail. 30 Haloperidol, one Diazepam, one Phenobarbital, or Xanax. But this was about COVID, where you can‘t breathe. Why did they give her sedatives? [Interviewer:] So your mom was fit, she was healthy, she goes into the hospital, 17 days later, she dies? [Adriana:] Yes, yes. She was killed, because she wanted to come home. She had 92 % oxygen saturation. She had a good blood pressure. Pulse was good. And she could get up from the bed. And she said I don't want drugs, I don't want anything, I just want to go home. The doctor said, let's intubate. And they intubate with fentanyl, midazolam, they gave her listanone to intubate, and in two minutes she was killed. [Interviewer:] And you researched this then, right, and found out all these substances. How did you find that out? [Adriana:] An exhumation was done. Three years, after she died. The prosecutor said, okay… [Interviewer:] A postmortem, basically was done? [Adriana:] Yes, to see the toxicology. All the time I said, when I saw on paper what they administered to my mom, I saw the drugs. And I said, for what? Because my mother was okay, healthy and old. And we have the proof because they did some analysis on my mom in the hospital. And on the first day all was okay. She did not have anything. Nothing at all. And they said that my mom could not breathe. Okay. She can‘t breathe. But you gave her Xanax. For what? Diazepam. For what? Midazolam they gave her. Phenobarbital. A lot of sedative drugs for what? But my mom talked to me everyday on the phone. And she asked me all the time: take me home, take me home, I implore you to take me home from here. Nobody is coming to us. Only when they give us the medicine, after that we are alone here. They close the door in the hospital and they come just to give me the drugs. And I called the doctor I told him that I wanted to take my mom or to transfer her to another hospital because she said it is not good what happens in the hospital. And they didn't want to give me my mom. [Interviewer:] Oh they actually didn't let you pick her up? [Adriana:] No because they said all the time she's positive, she's positive. And I told them that I want to see the test, where is the test. They didn‘t show me a test for Covid. And after she died they didn‘t let us see her. They put her in a black body bag, in two bags: the first being white and over that a black one. We saw that at the exhumation and all she had on was diapers. Because they put her in the black bag with diapers on and didn't clean her, she had blood on her face. They didn't let us identify my mom. We didn't know for three years if my mom is there or not because they said if you show the body, if you open the bag [Marian:] the Covid „jumps out“… No, no but they said that police will arrest us because its a criminal offense. But I couldn't see if my mom is there. They did not want to let me see her after she died. [Interviewer:] And speaking of this crime that she's getting all these drugs: You told me that there was a huge business all over Romania. How big of a business was that? [Adriana:] In Arad in the hospital of Arad it was two billion euros. [Interviewer:] Two billion in one hospital. How much in the whole country? [Marian:] Around 350 billion in Romania. [Interviewer:] Wow! [Adriana:] Yes, we have a proof for that. The hospitals made acquisitions. C-cap is the name of the site where hospitals buy their medical supplies. [Interviewer:] So you checked, how much they earned during that time. [Adriana:] A nurse told me that in that hospital, in that section, there were 12 beds in that section and they said my mother was infected. [Interviewer:] Okay, she got an infection? [Adriana:] Yes [Interviewer:] Or they told you that she had an infection? [Adriana:] No, they didn’t tell me. And I saw it on the paper afterwards. And I wondered why? [Interviewer:] Ah, she picked up an infection in the hospital. [Adriana:] Yes. Why? Because my mother was wearing the same Mask as another patient. [Interviewer:] They were sharing a mask. [Adriana:] Yes. [Marian:] They took the masks from the deceased and gave them to the other patients. [Interviewer:] So they actually spent two billion but still were sharing masks? [Marian:] Yes. And they didn't have the basic equipment for cleaning wounds. They didn't even have the medical alcohol for disinfection. [Interviewer:] That sounds like they wanted people to die. [Adriana:] Yes, because when I saw that they were not masked in the hospital in this section I wondered why. Because they spent so much money. I went on C-cap in the best date and, yes what I saw there shocked me. Where is the mask because you have many acquisitions. They spent Billions. [Marian:] Billions were spent but these materials and supplies did not really arrive in the hospitals. [Interviewer:] Only the Midazolam and the Fentanyl. [Marian:] I think much of the medication many treatments were made with came from some warehouses from big pharma. And it was a good time to sell it and make it disappear to the patients. Because these patients died and in Romania is not possible to make autopsies on people to see what is the reason these people died. So you can put a lot of medication many treatments into these patients and nobody can prove if it was done or not because you can‘t check it. This was a machinery to spend the money and nobody can prove it. [Interviewer:] So these 350 billion they obviously didn't do anything to help the patients, where did the money go? [Marian:] I say that it is evident that this was criminal because they made the same treatments, the same medication over and over again and the people died. Okay, one person dies, two people die, if people are still dying after one week you have to do something different. [Interviewer:] You have to change it.. [Marian:] Yes! You see these drugs are not good for treating COVID, it's not good for the people. But they continued with this, regardless, and even administered more. And is was something very scary. I was there and saw people dying within half a day or something like this, because it was necessary to have a free bed to bring in another patient and put him on medication. This went on and on. [Interviewer:] Killing the next one [Marian:] exactly, it was a machinery to kill the people and put the medication into them. [Adriana:] Yes and the patients payed to get a bed in the hospital. [Marian:] Yes thats another point: It was said that going to Arad Gradiste Hospital was the only chance to stay alive and many people gave money to go there and didn't know that it was a slaughterhouse. People payed to go there! And after several days, maybe 3, maybe 5 maximum they died. Some people resisted more than others but they died. [Adriana:] They didn‘t do any investigation or analysis. Just the usual, nothing. But they always gave her drugs, always drugs. [Marian:] They put a mask around the face. All equipment was bought second-hand from Germany. But was bought as if it were new. It did not work very well. But the problem was not that it did not work very well. But the problem was that the hospital staff did not know how to operate it. And in many cases I have observed, they put the mask on the patient and after that the patient could not breathe, so they suffocated the patient with the mask or this new equipment. [Adriana:] And because they didn't want to keep the mask on the face they got drugs [Interviewer:] so how many people died in that period of time in Romania. [Marian:] In that month around five hundred people died just in one section. But in Romania… [Interviewer:] Just in that hospital in one section of one hospital 500 people? [Marian:] Yes. Only three people escaped. I am one of them! And in all Romania 68,000 people died from Covid. I don't know exactly what happened there and what drugs or what the treatment was the people received. [Adriana:] Over the entire pandemic in this section in Arad (hospital) 1860 people died. Just in this one section with 12 beds. No, there were three sections. And just in this section 700 people died. Just in this section with 12 beds. [Interviewer:] Wow, 700 people. What period of time? [Adriana:] 2020 - 2023 [Marian:] Many people died in this period November, December 2020. Before 2021, just two months. [Adriana:] The mask, the oxygen mask was bad. My mom called me every day and told me I can't breathe with the mask. This is not good for me. I breathe better without the mask. Why do they put it on me? Marian told me that a nurse or a doctor told him to put on the mask because they did not want to get Covid. [Marian:] I demonstrated to a doctor that with the oxygen mask the oxygen saturation was worse than without the mask. Without the mask I had around 95 to 97, with mask, with oxygen mask my oxygen level went down to 91. [Interviewer:] The „oxygen mask“! Right? [Marian:] Yes, that was NOT oxygen. I don‘t know what it was. But this oxygen killed people. I‘m serious. Near me a man was lying. I don‘t know his exact age. He could move and he was tied down, on the hands and legs. [Interviewer:] Was tied to the bed?… [Marian:] Yes, and after three days some nurses came to check what happened to him. And one of them pulled off the mask from his face. It was a big mask covering his whole face (CPAP). This mask covered the nose and the chin. It was scary to see the man like a skeleton. You could see the bone of his nose and this man screamed all the time! You can't… you can't, you can‘t imagine what that sounded like there and nobody came to see him (check on him, no staff) nobody! I want to say one other thing: when somebody died everybody was happy. The medical personnel was happy. I think they received some money, because they were happy: Yay! Another one died, yeah! [Interviewer:] Who do you think on the higher levels wanted this? Because obviously it was happening all over Romania right? [Marian:] It's a protocol from OMS. We adhered to the protocol, and this is the reason why people died, because we kept the protocol. And another order was from a military general, because we were in a ‚state of emergency‘. Everybody, knew it was necessary to not say anything against this, because it's an order from the top and from the government, [Adriana:] Yes, from the government, [Marian:] To keep your medical doctor‘s license you had to take exactly the protocol and apply it. [Interviewer:] Now, where did all the money come from that's on the paper? Why was there so much money recorded there? [Adriana:] The money they received was double, triple the money needed. Because if you go into Google and research. For example if I want to buy a CT machine. . . [Marian:] For example, one bed maybe was 6, 000 Euros on the bill, and the real one was only 1, 000 Euros. So it happened something like this. [Interviewer:] So the in books… [Marian:] All the suppliers, all suppliers, everyone was doing this, all bed suppliers (for example), it was a period to earn a lot – become rich in short time if you are in this area. [Adriana:] During the pandemic, in Arad, in two months, i saw It was like weeds popping up so quickly: pharmacies, Dr. Max Pharmacy. Every street in Arad was opening up a Dr. Max Pharmacy, everywhere! I said, where in just two months do so many pharmacies, and Dr. Max come from? [Marian:] Like mushrooms spreading after rain (Yes, right)... so many drug stores appeared. [Interviewer:] Yes. But, but what you were saying - and I think that's really interesting – and I want to dive into that a bit still: with the money that you say, they recorded the price for a bed, or they reported, you said, six times the money that was needed, and then there isn't even a new bed there. That sounds like… [Marian:] I was in the hospital when someone from a ministry came to see the new bed acquisitions, and I was in one of the, the new beds. This new bed was like something - out of plastic. It was supposed to be a bed that had features to help the patient shift positions and move… [Adriana:] Some special bed... [Marian:] Yes, because when patients stay more in the bed, this causes a pneumonia. It's necessary for the body to move. Exactly. But these beds don't move! They stay without moving. The beds just remain in down-position, in stationary position. Which was very, very bad. And when the guy from the ministry came, and I said: "Please change this bed for me. I can't stay on this“. And I heard: "This was, this bed cost 6000 Euros! What shit did you buy here!?‘ Or something like this… ‚Please exchange the bed‘, the (Ministry official said to), to the man. And in the local area there was some business done with this European money, and another business (deal) was made in the Bucharest Health Ministry, I don't know exactly. [Marian:] But the nurses in Romania, from this area, don't want to work in this hospital, because they know that there is a problem. And many people come for the money. And with, we say in Romania, with arrangements on the money. If you want to be a nurse in our hospitals, it's not important to have some diplomas, some specialization or some experience. Just give me 5000 Euro (bribe) and you, the next day you become a very nice nurse in a hospital in Romania. And this happened (to me) there. You see, I have had bad luck – they practised on me – they tried to find vein. [Interviewer:] They were trying to hit your vein? [Marian:] Exactly. And they tried around five minutes long. One nurse held my hand and another made holes in my arm. [Adriana:] They can‘t find – they don't know how to find an artery – vein. [Marian:] Yes, yes, exactly. [Adriana:] Because they are not experienced. [Marian:] It was the same for everybody. So, these woman don't have experience. [Interviewer:] Right [Marian:] It's very bad. But I think… I think much money come in from salary or from another path. And there‘s another bad habit in Romania. It's necessary to (bribe) the nurses - to give them money, to give the doctor money… [Adriana:] If you don't give them money, they don't clean you. They don't give you anything to eat! My mother had nothing to eat. [Marian:] I stayed there one day long with shit on me. Because I couldn‘t move - I was tied up on hand on the legs - [Interviewer:] You were tied to the bed. [Marian:] Exactly. Because the nurse didn't receive the money. [Interviewer:] Oh, man. [Marian:] Yes. It was impossible to me give money because I was (tied up). . . But this is the. . [Interviewer:] Mentality. [Marian:] Mentality, yes. [Marian:] Nobody wants this machinery to be uncovered. And another reason is that everybody is scared when they hear this and say I don‘t want to hear this, I don‘t want to see and be involved in this. The very good example is with the process. [Adriana:] I have a case in court and in 4 years not they switched the prosecutor 5 times. So that there are no results. [Adriana:] they faked a lot. All the papers of my Mom are faked. Radiography, Analysis, the pulmonary radiography. I can show you how they put this to my Mom. I can show it to the prosecutor. I have so much proof. But they don‘t care. [Marian:] The prosecutor does not want to take the evidence. [Adriana:] they change the prosecutor. That is coming from higher up. [Interviewer:] So, from my side, thanks very much for this great interview. Thanks for being here.

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