The Cult-Agenda: Control Everything – Interview with David Icke from January 2023
Being happy without a car and living in a limited radius of movement under constant control: These are some of the goals of the cult agenda, busily pushed by people of the "cult". Without being part of the society themselves, they are busy setting up a global-centralist control structure in the world. In this second part of the big Kla.TV interview, David Icke explains the current background and connections of this dark cult agenda, which will affect every citizen in the near future it is not stopped in time. Beat the censorship by sharing this post widely in person and online![continue reading]
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28.01.2023 | www.kla.tv/24901
Dan: YNP-10 with David Icke Number one: Yes, No or Pass: Elon Musk is showing us he is a major proponent of free speech and friend of liberty by reinstating twitter accounts. Icke: I can’t give a sure answer to that. I can only say that Elon Musk has a long, long history of deceit throughout his business career, including claiming that he is co-founder of Tesla when he is not. And he is fronting up companies that are very, very central in terms of what they are doing, to this global-cult agenda of human control. They include Space-X which is putting up low-orbit satellites to project 5G, (6G, 7G - still to come) at the earth to cover every inch of it. We have what they are calling in Silicon Valley ‘the cloud’. And the idea – and they’ve long talked about this – is for humans to be connected to the cloud. And the fact that these fake vaccines are included with a nanotechnology, self-replicating nanotechnology is part of that connection. So it’s essential to that agenda to have these low-orbit satellites. And Elon Musk and Space-X are the forerunners of it, really. They have got permission for tens of thousands to put these satellites up to the point where even in the earliest days the astronomical community was complaining that the night sky was being changed by these things – what are they called – Starlink, I think they call it ... Dan: I’ve seen them fly over. Icke: Yeah, but they’ve got permission for tens of thousands, that’s just the start. So that’s a massive cult-agenda, and he has played a massive part in that. The electric vehicles or autonomous vehicles which Tesla is pushing of course, and he is promoting, even though other companies are doing it, he is the frontman for pushing this whole thing because he is always in the media doing it. So that’s a cult-agenda. And he said that connecting artificial intelligence to the human brain could be the end of humanity and then starts a company called Neuralink in which is doing just that. He has announced that they are going to start human trials soon – so he claims. Although anything he says is very questionable indeed. And then – and this is another way of looking at this: Twitter, like Google and YouTube and Facebook is controlled in terms of – and allows itself to be controlled – in terms of what people are allowed to say on those platforms. And so the cult – we’ve already talked about this – wants control of information, wants control of the narrative. And it wants to stop people having a different view. Now what these so-called Twitter files [Twitter files = a set of internal documents released by Twitter CEO Elon Musk starting in December 2022] have done – that Musk has overseen the release of, it would seem – is confirming that, what we call the deep state, i.e. the cult, which the deep-state is just an expression of, had exactly what it wanted. It had control of what appeared on Twitter and what didn’t. So the question then comes: Why would Twitter, controlled by this cult, as I say then suddenly decide that it was going to hand over control of Twitter, which it already had control of – hand it over to a quote “free speech absolutist”? Why would they do that? It makes absolutely no sense. A free speech absolutist, by the way, that is fronting up a series of companies that are advancing the cult agenda. And the world that we are being taken into – this “great reset” is called a technocracy. And Musk’s grandfather in Canada was one of the leading lights in the technocratic movement of the 1930’s and Elon Musk is, according to the World Economic Forum, one of its young leaders school graduates, which has produced Trudeau, which has produced Macron, which has produced Ardern in New-Zealand and Newsom in California and so on. So when I put this together, it makes no sense that Twitter, already where the cult wanted it, then hands it over to a free speech absolutist. So what would say to people, I say it all the time: don’t judge a situation by what is happening in that moment. Let it play out and let’s see where it goes. And I am absolutely convinced, I have no doubt whatsoever, given the background, that where this goes eventually, will not be where it appears to be going now. Dan: Since you mentioned the electric cars, I am going to jump to question 4. You’ve said that they want us to drive in cars that can be computer controlled. Do you think Michael Hastings’, Anne Heche’s and Jörg Haider’s [Michael Hastings, Anne Heche, Jörg Haider = all influential people who died after car accidents. The investigations of these accidents have sparked controversy as to if it really was an accident] cars were either remotely controlled or programmed to crash? Icke: Well the point about the cars as they’re developing and what happens with each new generation of vehicles is, the computer controls more and more and more of what happens. I had a car and I kept it a very, very long time, until it was basically finished. And then I bought another one – an updated one – and I was shocked.by how much of the car is actually down to the computer now. The idea – What they’re doing – it’s a stepping stone towards total computer control. So, first of all that allows you to externally take over a car... probably you’ve seen some of these videos – some from years, and years ago, nevermind where we are today, where there’s a guy on a computer and there’s a bloke driving. And this guy on the computer is putting the bloody windshield wipers on, he’s putting the window up and down, he’s contolling the car. He can apply everything: the steeringwheel, everything. And this is not even where we are now. So the idea is that that can happen! Absolutely, that can happen! Where a car suddenly just takes off at 100 miles an hour, for no reason a hits a tree. I mean that is absolutely possible! Not only now, it has been possible for a while. And then; this is the other thing – this is where the electric car really comes from, the reason for it. It has nothing to do with the environment – if you have a petrol driven or a diesel driven vehicle, you can’t have an autonomous version of that, it won’t work. You need an electrical version, where everything is controlled by the electrical system, thus controlled by the computer. And what you do now – and we are talking about freedom – is that you get into your petrol or your diesel vehicle and you drive basically where you want to go, but in an autonomous vehicle, you’ve got to program the computer to take you where you want to go. This computer will be programmed itself, only to take you where the authorities allow you to go. Dan: Yes, “Minority Report” ... [Minority Report = a movie from 2002 featuring autonomously driving vehicles that can be programmed to drive their passenger into lockdown] Icke: ...The other thing, very quickly, about electric vehicles is that, they are not ment to replace diesel and petrol vehicles. They are only meant for the few who can afford them, and they’re only meant for things like, you know, mass transport, taxis and stuff, that’s all they are meant for. Dan: So the idea is we won’t even have a car! Icke: Yes! There’s not enough resources – for the batteries alone – to...and of course the pollution consequences of the batteries – to replace all petrol and diesel cars. Therefore, it’s about the vast majority of the population having no cars whatsoever. And now you come across this: In England, Oxford, they have announced that they’re going to introduce 15 minute communities. In Oxford. There’s going to be a big rally and protest about this which I’ll go to myself in February. What they are proposing is this – and as one of the counselors says, it’s going to happen, no matter if the people want it or not! Classic! Everything they say you want or need will be within 15 minutes walk or cycle ride from your home. And you’ll be allowed to leave this 15 minute community twice in a car, they said twice a month or something like that. And if you go over that number you start getting fined for doing so. And this is what they are planning for all around the world. You know, I talked earlier about the Hunger Games society broken up into sectors. So, if you are in a 15 minute city, and you can’t really leave it many times in a car, you are basically under a form of lockdown. And if you are still going to do any kind of job the overwhelming pressure will be to work from home while you’re doing it, because you’re in this 15 minute community. And so you go back to lockdown. And what did people do in lockdown? What did they have to do, those who could still work? They work from home! And now we are having lots of strikes – railroad strikes in Britain at the moment. And people, because they can’t move, because of the rail strike they’re working from home! And more and more people are saying: “We want to work from home! We don’t want to go into an office or into a government building”. So much of government is now done by people working from home. And this is all part of this process of these very tightly controlled communities – sectors, which you will not be able to leave without permission, eventually! So, the whole electric car thing is not what it seems to be. It is very very different. And the idea is to use it as an excuse to get rid of petrol and diesel vehicles and to ban them, which is where they are already going. And once they are gone – well again electric car then. But they are like 170,000 Dollars, 100,000 Dollars! I haven’t got that! Oh, well better do without then. This is the idea. Get rid of it and then let people realize there is no alternative. Dan: Right, right. Okay. I think we are going to have to jump down the list a little. Let’s go straight to number 5. Would you agree with this statement: The real money running the world is not on the Forbes Top Billionaires List. Icke: The real money in the world people never see. Dan: I scanned the Forbes List for 2022 and you know the typical names are at the top. I did not see a Rockefeller, I did not see the banking family in England. Icke: Rothschild Dan: I did not see a Rothschild and I did not see the Royal family either in the top 200. Icke: No, the reason is, the real money is hidden. So you have people like Elon Musk, richest man in the world or Jeff Bezos, richest man in the world. And these are still gophers [Gopher = used to describe a person who acts in subordination to a superior force]. I mean... – so... and Gates is a gopher of the cult you know. He does what the cult tells him. And he gets very rich on his level of richness by doing what the cult tells him and fronting it out. But just think of that: Bezos is a gopher of the cult. Musk is a gopher for the cult. Gates is a gopher of the cult. So when you look at what their accumulated wealth is said to be worth: What the hell wealth has been accumulated by those who are telling them what to do. Dan: Yes. Icke: It is unthinkable and because they are operating outside the system they can trash the system for the population without affecting themselves, because they don’t work in it. They work outside of it. Dan: Now speaking of who is actually in the system. This is one I am really curious what your answer is. Putin and Xi serve as the modern 1984 Goldsteins. [Goldstein = figure from the novel “1984”. Leader of one of the two power-blocks and the target for a daily media-driven 2-minute hate tirade by the entire population of the opposing power-block] The guy you were supposed to scream at in the two minutes hate. But are Russia and China merely WEF players of a different hue. Icke: Well, the World Economic Forum is a front of the cult. It's not the cult. It’s a means the cult uses (1:39) to impose it’s agenda. And so, if you go deep enough into the cult. The Russian leadership, the Chinese leadership and the American leadership will actually all be controlled by the same force. And I said a long time ago now, that the plan included a desire to impose a third world war. That would bring together the West in conflict with Russia and China and some other countries thrown in like Iran. What’s happening in the Ukraine is obviously a proxy war between the West and Russia, and Russia and China are being pushed more and more into an allied situation. I mean, the reason why Russia hasn’t collapsed is because it’s selling its oil and stuff to China and places like India. And China is not going to allow Russia to go under anyway. Because of its potential isolation. So, if you go deep enough in the rabbithole, they are all gophers for the cult. They may have their different personal opinions that differ, but when it comes to the big agenda they come into line ‘or else’. And so much of what we’re told is rivalry, is not rivalry at all. It’s moving pieces around on the chessboard. Because it’s not Biden, quite obviously, that’s controlling America. It’s not even Xi that’s controlling China, or Putin controlling Russia, they are massively fronting it up! And as long as they do what they are told, what they say goes, yes! But behind them is this cult structure that makes sure they do what they are told to do. And so you are seeing the pieces being moved around, not least in Ukraine to bring this East and West into conflict as I said was the plan in the late 1990ies, early 2000s. And if you look at China: China is a massive cult operation. I say that this cult actually orchestrated the Mao revolution. And it did it for this reason: it wanted to create a closed society in which a system of mass control could be incubated and perfected, not least eventually for the use of technology which eventually once incubated and perfected would be played out across the world as the global system of mass control. And it’s no surprise therefore that a Covid-hoax that came out for China has led to more and more West becoming like China. And the global agenda, the Great Reset is basically – it’s to create global version of China. And so – I’ve been saying this for decades – If you want to see what is planned for the west tomorrow, look at China today. And again and again and again it comes true, that’s what´s going on! And you look at the control system of China, how they control people and how they track people in real time, how they control their money, how they control everything that they do! And that’s exactly what’s unfolding in the west now, and indeed the rest of the world. And it’s not an accident, it’s by design. And if people don’t want the West to become – and their communities, to become China, then they better step up and stop acquiescing to authority, because that’s what’s going to happen if they don’t! Dan: Right. Right. I think I’m going to try if we can to fit in three quick questions. Do you think it’s time to abolish the monarchy in Great Britain? Icke: Oh, I think it’s being abolished! I said quite a few years ago now, that the Great Reset is a global centralized structure of control! And a lot of the old structures of control would be deleted as it came in. And one of them would be the idea of monarchy. Monarchy has served the cult over the ages magnificently because they were able to control one person, or one family and bingo, they controlled the country! And we’ve still got the monarchy of Britain of course and one or two other countries as well. But I said that when the queen of England and Prince Philip goes and they are gone, then the beginning of the end would have started for the monarchy. And so what we have in this country now is an unpopular, quote “king”, Charles with an unpopular partner and we have an heir to the throne, William, and then, after him some very small children of William and at the same time just very quickly we got this pair of prats firing missiles cross the Atlantic. Meghan Markle and her gopher Prince Harry to undermine, and it’s reached fever pitch in this country – now fever pitch! It’s unbelievable, it’s everywhere, attacking the British Royal family and undermining it. And what we are starting to see are people now coming out even publicly, some celebrity stuff, and saying: “It is just a soap opera this Royalty. Why are we paying for it?” So if you think about – and this applies to a … much wider situation is going on in the West – if you want to dismantle Western society – which is the plan big time – to bring about this global society, then you have to take away the major pillars of that society. Now in the West, the majority racial type in the West, are white people. Now if you want to undermine Western society therefore, you are not going to target minorities in Western society. You are going to target the major racial group in Western society which has over the years developed the culture of Western society if you like. And so this is why you can say anything you like about white people. I mean you know for me that is just a body, I don’t care if I was black, white, Jewish, or sky-blue, pink, I do not give a damn. I just happen to be born in England, as a white person. It means nothing to me in that sense. But I am talking about the way the cult is seeing the dismantling the Western society. You can say anything you like about white people today. No “political correctness” is going to defend you, is going to attack you for doing it. But say anything about other racial groups, you can’t say anything. So that’s why the white people are being targeted. If black people or brown people or whatever color were the major racial type in Western society, they would be the ones being targeted. This is the reason. And then you look at history, and I am not a Christian. Why? I don’t know, but the best of people are. I am not, but that is not the point. Because of the historical nature of the way Western society is developed. Christianity is weaved into the fabric of Western society. It is, it certainly is in this country. And other countries, too. And so again if you say anything about other religions then there’s a consequence now, big time, through political correctness and what have you. But you can say what you like about Christianity, and there’s no comeback at all. Because they’re targeting the pillars of Western society. If Islam had been the religion of Western society, they’d be targeting that. And so you come to royalty. If you look at Britain as an example. The whole fabric of British society is founded on the monarchy. We don’t have a government of the people in this country. We have quote “Her Majesty’s government.” We don’t have an opposition party in this country. We have quote – this is the title: Her Majesty’s – or his Majesty’s now, that Charlie’s took over – “His Majesty’s most loyal opposition”, that’s what it’s called. And we have His Majesty’s tax Office, His Majesty’s Border Police, all of it. Dan: His Majesty’s subjects. Icke: Yeah, subjects. You know – oh, God, I cringe every time I hear it – we have a national anthem in this country, right? And it goes now that Charlie’s come in, … “God save our gracious King, Long live our noble king”. And it goes on to say, “long to reign over us. God save the king. Long to reign over us”. Look at what those words mean. It means to be subjected to its authority. People are singing a national anthem about an apparent nation. And they are saying they want to be reigned over by this prat (prattler), because that’s what he is, Charlie boy, now the king. The point is, though, that the whole fabric of British society has monarchy woven all through it. The monarchy will disappear and I’m not saying it’s gonna happen tomorrow, but it’s already started. This is what’s this stuff in America. Markle, Markle and her Gopher is all about. And they probably don’t know, but it is, it’s about the complete transformation of British society. Because when the monarchy is gone, literally everything in terms of the structure and the institutions has to be restructured. Because the head of State even down to signing the things into law, God help us, will have gone. And so this all fits with this Great Reset, which is literally a complete transformation of everything in terms of the structure of society, that's gone before. So the monarchy is, the monarchy is in its last days. I’m not saying, you know, literally last days, but the end is nigh. Dan: That’s right. You take away the pillars of our society. And you more easily achieve this. Icke: Exactly! Dan: Okay! Two more quick ones. This next one might be... we might have to deal with it delicately. Your stint at the BBC was concurrent with Jimmy Savile’s stint there. Do you think BBC management knew what was going on with Savile at the time? Icke: Well, the thing to remember about the BBC is, it’s not quite as big as it is now, because lots of us are not paying our license fee, and it’s running out of money because it’s such a controlled organization these days, it’s unbelievable – talk about lies – gee wiz. But, when I was there, it was a massive and still is, but it was bigger then – massive organization with endless different departments. See, when I worked at the BBC in London most of my work was actually done from home, not from the BBC, I just went to the BBC to do the programs. Dan: But you didn’t go into the BBC office and bump elbows with Jimmy? Icke: I think I was on a breakfast TV-Show once where I did the sport about three times in the morning and do the sports news and then go off and have a cup of coffee or something. I think he was being interviewed by someone else on the show, the main presenters… once. But I never actually remember I even met the guy. What the point is – I was approached by a lady towards the end of the 90ies, it was about 1997. And I met her where people are meeting and discussing things. I met her and she said some very interesting things about Princess Diana who was killed by them by this time in Paris. And I said to her afterwards: “ How do you know this?“ And she said to me: “I have a friend who was a close friend of Diana for nine years and when I found out it was the media that well acknowledged that she was close to Diana and they fell out not long before she died.” Anyway, a few days later I arranged for this lady and her friend to come to where I am, on the Isle of Wight, off the Southcoast of England, and we had a long chat and I recorded actually on one of these reel to reel audio tapes – I have still got somewhere. Anyway, we were talking and she talked to me about how Diana was appallingly treated by the Royals and all this stuff. How she was basically the brood mare to produce the kids and then they wanted rid of her and all that. But anyway she started to talk about Jimmy Savile. And she said, he is a pedophile and he’s a satanist and that he was used by Charles who was a close friend of his as a go between him – him and Diana when their marriage was breaking down. And she told me many, many things about that background, how Diana hated Savile and thought he was sleazy. And I said... when he died in 2011, I said on the internet that this guy was a satanist and a pedophile and the reaction was: That’s crazy! You’re defaming a man who can’t speak for himself. And then about, I don’t know, a year, two years later, there was a big TV documentary in this country on independent television, what they call independent, and it exposed the pedophilia of – the massive story of pedophilia of Jimmy Savile who was a very strange character, you might have seen it on the telly - he was strange! And he was very much connected into the British Royal Family. As my research unfolded: he was brought into the inner circle of the British Royal Family in the 1960ies by a guy called Lord Mountbatten, and Lord Mountbatten was an old pedophile and a very close associate of the queen and the inner circle of the royal family. And Savile stayed in that inner circle right the way through almost to when he died and he became a very, you’d say, a close friend of prince Charles which is now acknowledged. Dan: Jimmy Savile was knighted, was he not? Icke: Yes... he was not only knighted by royalty, he was knighted by the bloody Vatican! This guy went much deeper into the system than anyone ever understood. The point is, he became vastly wealthy. Even when his open means to money like being an entertainer or a disc jockey ended. And what he was doing – this is what has not come out – as I researched this over the years. I put it all in a book, called ‘Perception Deception’, is that he was procuring children for the rich and famous. And that’s why although the police knew he was a pedophile and he was into all this horrific stuff, that they never prosecuted him. Also he was threatening bloody legal action against the media and stuff. Dan: You are saying he was the British Epstein [Jeffrey Epstein = America’s best-known predatory pedophile]? Icke: Oh yeah, he was probably worse than Epstein. Epstein was appalling, but, this guy was rampant for decade after decade after decade. I mean, he was very elderly when he died. And the whole area, the kind of entertainment area of the BBC, which obviously I was not part of, because I was working for the Sports Department. But the whole, you know, Radio 1 they called it which was kind of the pop music thing, the top of the pops and all that stuff, when you look back, it was quite bloody shady really and it’s come out since, that the BBC executives did know some of what was going on, at least some of what was going on. And did nothing about it. And indeed, when one of its own programs called ‘Newsnight’ was about to do an exposé on Savile, it was shut down by the BBC. So the BBC today is a, I mean it was a system organization all along really, but not on the scale it is now. It’s just unbelievable. They won’t talk to people that are questioning climate change, they wouldn’t talk to people that are questioning the Covid story, it’s a complete propaganda operation these days, but it’s got so many skeletons in the cupboard, the BBC, it’s unbelievable. And this is why I can say … very like, cause it’s paid for by what they call the license fee, where by law you have to buy a television license – that are very expensive these days – to fund the BBC. You don’t have to watch the BBC, you just have to basically have a television to have to pay the license fee. And very very large and increasing numbers of people are so appalled by the BBC and what it is doing and how it’s lying to us that they are not paying it anymore. And the BBC is starting to really get seriously out of money. Dan: Right. Ok. For our very last question, I’d like to go from a dark, dark topic, to something a little lighter. Are you still a soccer fan or do you shun the “circuses” part of “bread and circuses” [Bread and circuses = Roman strategy of gaining public support by offering free wheat and games for the population]? Icke: Well, I think it is your attitude to it really. If you think that football matters when you’re looking at the global picture of life, then you’re caught in bread and circuses. But, if it’s a bit of entertainment but you know, it really doesn’t matter. You know, you’d like this team to win, maybe – well, not so much me these days, but some people like this team to win, but it’s not the end of the bloody world if it doesn’t. So, I too, I watch it, you know, nothing like I used to… Dan: Did your kids play soccer when they were growing up? Icke: Yeah! We’re kind of a family of goalkeepers. Dan: Okay! (laughing) Icke: I was a goalkeeper, I always got attracted to the goalkeeper position, because it was different from the others. I guess that’s part of my life. And then when my son Gareth (Gareth Icke) was growing up, he became a goalkeeper. Not because I encouraged him, but because he said he wanted to be, so I helped him then. And he played for the England Beach Soccer Team in the nationals against other countries around the world around Europe. And then my other son Jamie, he started to like football and I said: Where do you want to play? He said: Goal! He was attracted to play in goal, so I helped him as well. And Jamie played for the Portsmouth Youth team for many years as he was growing up through school he had trials for Aston Villa and Manchester United and he like Gareth was a very good goalkeeper as well, and I don’t know, it must have been in the genes or something because I never encouraged either of them, I let them make their own decisions and they both said, they want to be a goalkeeper. Dan: Right… maybe not, but I can see the proud father in your eyes there. Icke: Oh yes, you certainly can. I mean, when you, when you’re watching your kids…, do something you did, and do it very well… it’s a great source of pride to see that. Dan: That’s right. Well, I would like to finish this interview with one quote. Since we’re talking about soccer, it comes from Goal magazine. And here’s the quote: “Considering the opprobrium and ridicule that David Icke now endures for many of his pronouncements, a career in football or indeed football journalism, might have granted him a quieter life.” Your comment? Icke: I don’t want to quieter life. By the time I left the BBC, I had absolutely had enough of that whole television industry. It’s so insular, not looking outward. As they used to say about the BBC, the BBC people: They get so confused, they stab each other in the chest, you know. And so that was a vacuous world. It’s one of the reasons I used to work from home for every, as much as I could and then go and do the program and then come home. I couldn’t stand that vacuous world. So the idea that I would have continued to do that, worst nightmare. No matter what has happened since I’m… I wouldn’t change a second of it. Dan: Excellent, excellent. Well, David Icke, you have given us two hours of your time so generously. It has been an honor and a real pleasure. Thank you so much for being with us. Icke: Thank you. It’s been a real pleasure, Daniel! Thank you.