Interview with Heiko Schöning: Seeing Through the New Killer-Bacteria Panic

26.03.2026 | www.kla.tv/40775

[Heiko Schöning:] "But what has happened now, I warned against this in my book "Attack on the Microbiome". Now it’s been orchestrated that suddenly all other healthy people have to take antibiotics, just like the sick. And that’s not right. […] Taking antibiotics just once can damage the microbiome for a long time. […] There are truly criminal organizations behind this. […] Who helped orchestrate this? Jeffrey Epstein and Leslie Wexner. […] It’s mRNA genetic manipulation again. So it‘s not antibiotics, but mRNA. […] This isn’t primarily about the battlefield of medicine. […] Let’s really only focus on these criminal networks.” [Kla.TV:] Many of our viewers have already noticed. The mass media are conjuring up a new pandemic-like situation caused by bacteria. Today I’m speaking with one of the most knowledgeable experts on bio-weapons and the criminal masterminds behind them. His books ‘Game Over’ and ‘Game Over II’ have gained wide publicity. Especially in his second book, as early as 2023, he warned about an attack on the human microbiome by a newly planned pandemic involving bacteria. Joining us as our guest in our online studio is the physician and author Heiko Schöning. Welcome! [Heiko Schöning:] Greetings from the far north! [Kla.TV:] Mr. Schöning, please summarize for our viewers briefly what is happening right now! [Heiko Schöning:] Yes, right now in the spring of 2026, there is indeed a staged panic involving killer bacteria. It started in England; and is now spilling over to New Zealand, where we’re observing the same thing. In France and even in Germany, the mainstream press is already headlining it as “Covid 2.0.” So, a panic over most evil bacteria. And what’s absolutely dangerous and new, something that has never happened before, is the massive amounts of antibiotics that are now being handed out to healthy people. And there is a very specific incident. It started in England with two deaths from meningitis, caused by a pathogen of meningococcal bacteria. And they had hundreds of students lining up at the university and handed out large quantities of antibiotics, staging the event in a highly effective way for publicity. This is absolutely inappropriate and is also a real attack on public health. And now they‘re beginning to stage this worldwide. And we have the chance to stop this false narrative, which has been criminally prepared. [Kla.TV:] Well, one could say that, apart from the staged and inappropriate mass distribution of antibiotics to healthy people, nothing has actually happened so far. There is no new disease. The meningococcal pathogen is known. It‘s not a new bacterium, certainly no killer bacterium, and a few sick people. We know that about ten percent of people carry meningococcal bacteria anyway, but they don’t get sick. Claude Bernard, one of the pioneers of infectious disease studies, already pointed out that the germ is nothing and the environment is everything. But of course, it must also be mentioned that many young people are really run-down. Drugs, parties, gaming late into the night, highly processed foods – not to mention fast food and energy drinks – and then this constant assault on the psyche because we’re supposed to believe, or are officially required to believe, things that don’t align with perceptible reality at all. And when some people die in the midst of this toxic combination, is that really surprising? [Heiko Schöning:] No, that’s not surprising when the immune system is run-down. And that actually happened to me once. I almost died of meningitis. Specifically from these meningococcal bacteria, the same serotype [subgroups of microorganisms]. So I exactly know firsthand how dangerous this is. And also as a doctor. In individual cases, the use of antibiotics is absolutely the right thing. Without antibiotics, I myself would not have survived. But, as you just correctly quoted, it depends on the environment – that is, the setting – in which these pathogens, these bacteria, can thrive. Because actually they’re always there and almost everywhere. So it depends on how strong our immune system is. And as was the case in England with these two tragic deaths… If there’s excessive dancing going on, if perhaps even drugs are involved, alcohol, and other unfortunate circumstances, then it’s possible that these bacterial pathogens have an opportunity they wouldn’t have otherwise. And then this can actually lead to such an invasive [penetrating] meningitis or a fulminant [sudden onset, rapid and severe] form. But that happens very rarely indeed. So in 2019 we had only three cases per million in Germany. And do people die if they have such a bacterial meningitis? No, this is not the case either. If it’s an isolated condition, meaning you only have this meningitis caused by these bacteria, then the case-fatality rate [rate of deaths in relation to all with this disease] is just one percent. That means, even in this case, 99 percent survive.This is very important to understand. So it depends on how well our immune system functions. And I’ll keep this very brief, but what happened to me? I was just 19 years old. I was actually in great shape, very well trained. But I had just been drafted into the German Bundeswehr in the West and … for five days, I had sleep deprivation, a lot of stress, and was crammed in with others. But in my case, on top of that, I competed in a rowing regatta that first weekend – so the very next day. It was wet, it was cold, I took part in four races and won them all. My clothes were soaked. And those two things combined meant that I felt really, really bad. Yes, and if I hadn’t sought treatment after the symptoms appeared, I would have almost died within 24 hours. So, individual cases must be taken seriously. But what’s happening now - and I warned against this in my book “Attack on the Microbiome.” Now it has been orchestrated that all the other healthy people suddenly have to take antibiotics, just like the sick ones. And that’s not right. And in my own case, we actually all drank from the same championship trophy cup, from the eight, bottles of champagne. So I certainly spread bacteria to everyone else. And did anyone get sick? No, none of them. They all survived, of course. Two national team coaches are even among them. That’s the short version of my experience. So the really important thing is – and this shows that it’s being staged – that suddenly there’s something completely new in the world. That now – as the striking images and videos show – it’s being staged, that now masses of healthy young students are supposed to take antibiotics and are being pressured to do so. And this procedure is now spreading. And this is the very, very important point, which is factually inappropriate and which shows us, among other things, that the whole thing is staged. Here one is not up to anything good but rather to evil altogether. [Kla.TV:] Let’s come back to antibiotics. These aren’t harmless little remedies. Antibiotics are actually reserve medications for life-threatening conditions, specifically when there really is severe inflammation. For years, the medical community has preached that they should be used sparingly. So why are we now reverting to the principle of indiscriminate all-round distribution? That’s completely paradoxical. Recently, a mainstream article even reported that researchers at Uppsala University in Sweden have found that even a single dose of antibiotics damages the microbiome for four to eight years. [Heiko Schöning:] Yes. [Kla.TV:] And now these antibiotics are being handed out freely everywhere? What does that mean for the health of these young people? [Heiko Schöning:] Exactly. This bodes no good, because these young people are being harmed, and on a massive scale. It’s simply completely out of proportion to the protection it offers. That’s exactly what’s new. It’s this mass bacteria panic that I warned against and that I was fortunately able to summarize in the book with all the details. It‘s exactly this panic. And it is fact, even taking antibiotics once can damage the microbiome for a long time. By the way, just briefly, what is the microbiome, for those who haven’t heard of it yet? It is the community of good and helpful microorganisms within a human being. Mainly in our gut, we carry around two kilograms of bacteria, fungi, and other microorganisms inside us. They help us process food and also release neurotransmitters into the brain that make us feel good, provided there is a diverse range of bacteria, not just a single type. And if they are good ones, just as we are handed-down from the mother during a natural birth without a caesarean section. So, the microbiome can also be simply called the gut flora, because it’s mainly in the gut. And it has a very central role. Research over the past decades has proven this. There is, so to speak, the gut-brain axis, the connection between the brain and the gut. They communicate with each other, mainly via a nerve, the vagus nerve, the tenth cranial nerve, which runs directly down into the digestive tract. That is absolutely central – one‘s feeling and being is altered. When you acquire access to the gut flora, you can really control entire large groups of people. Whether they are anxious or whether they feel good and strong, for example, or whether they’re depressed,especially when, after an antibiotic-induced “cull”, new bad bacteria are introduced. But what’s happening now, and this is one of those truly irrational -and, in my view, criminal side effects – is that when you create such a bacteria panic with a non-specific all-round distribution of antibiotics, what happens when you administer them to so many people? Well, resistant bacteria are bred in the gut. That means that some people who are currently healthy and are given an antibiotic – and perhaps also have these meningococcal bacteria, there will be mutations – that is, alterations. In other words, resistant bacteria that are strong against existing antibiotics and they can simply continue to grow. And that’s just very dangerous when you’re effectively breeding such multidrug-resistant meningitis pathogens as a result. And that’s exactly what happens with such widespread use, with such non-specific widespread use. So we’re essentially breeding multi-resistant germs ourselves. And I’ve also explained that in the book. There are several stages through which this narrative can be developed. Suddenly it’s: ‘Oh my God, now we have multidrug-resistant germs and no antibiotic helps anymore. People are dying in agony.’ And I know from personal experience that this is possible if antibiotics are not effective. So, what then? Well, then there will be mass lockdowns and quarantines again, for our protection. And then, as you can imagine, yes, then the industry steps in, and it’s all prepared already. I 've described this in detail in the book – who and how. Because then non-traditional antibiotics are going to be administered. That's the technical term [means: technical term]. And what is that supposed to be? I can tell you right away. It's mRNA genetic manipulation again. So no antibiotics, but mRNA again. And they’ll call it antibiotics, just as they successfully called mRNA “vaccination.” That’s what’s coming if we don’t stop it. But I can only say, there are truly criminal organizations behind this. And I’ve named names and institutions. And, to put it very clearly and bluntly, who helped set this up? Jeffrey Epstein and Leslie Wexner. Yes, that Jeffrey Epstein with his main accomplice Leslie Wexner. They have been setting this up a long time beforehand. And I’ve proven that at the Wexner Medical Center… well, they’ve pumped two billion US dollars into it. And as a return on investment [here: return service for the investment] what kind of project do they have, among other things; but a very important one? They want to distribute antibiotics globally and also have the global antibiotics director Dr. Debra Goff as an employee of Wexner Medical [Wexner Medical Center = multidisciplinary academic medical center]. And she, in turn, also has additional connections to U.S. intelligence agencies, the CIA, and others. I proved all this. This is truly a project where criminals are actually behind it. And now, immediately after this incident had happened, the Health Secretary in the British Parliament stepped in and said: Oh, we need to make a lot of money available for vaccination against these bacteria, and one should be very generous with antibiotics, administering them as a precaution. And this is spreading… in New Zealand there’s a similar case, now also in France, and in Germany, too, the Tagesspiegel, in view of these pictures of these students wearing masks, standing in line outside, they wrote “It’s like Covid 2.0,” quote German Tagesspiegel. [Kla.TV:] [Pandemic exercises 'Pegasus' and 'Dark Winter'] I saw that in November 2025 there was yet another pandemic exercise. Pandemic exercises are constantly taking place. This one was called “Pegasus.” It was about the fact that enteroviruses [intestinal viruses]—not bacteria, but enteroviruses—would affect children in particular and cause encephalitis. Were things prepared here, just as with Corona and ‘Event 201,’ that then just happen to occur? [Heiko Schöning:] Yes, that’s exactly how it looks. And this pattern continues. Just now – in the UK they’re absolutely brazen about having this exercise carried out right before it happens. It’s true. You have to ask yourself: Excuse me? There was just a major exercise in the UK where children and teenagers contract meningitis. And now it has actually happened. And such panic is being stirred. With just two deaths, they could have been doing this for months, years, even decades. But now this is happening right after this exercise. That’s quite peculiar indeed. And I can only mention another incident. I have laid out and examined the ‘Dark Winter’ exercise in detail and examined how and who had planned this exercise to create a bacteria panic. Specifically, in response to a real attack with bacteria, an attack with bioweapons in 2001. That was Bacillus anthracis [the anthrax pathogen], those bacteria. Those were the anthrax attacks [attacks with anthrax spores], around September 2001. And there was also, again, probably six months earlier [laughs], an exercise called “Dark Winter.” I described all the details in my first book. And they’re also recorded on DVD. That means these exercises, they happen again and again. And now there was obviously also this ‘Pegasus’ exercise regarding meningitis in young people. And the UK Health Secretary now said, “Yes, we’re now distributing antibiotics and vaccines as well, free of charge for everyone under 23 or 25 years of age.” [Kla.TV:] [How did Schöning come to his prediction? The same criminal pattern over and over again]. Yes, that’s pretty brazen, repeating the same pattern over and over again. But that’s how you came to your conclusions. Can you briefly outline how you arrived at the predictions in the book ‘Game Over II’ that a bacteria pandemic, of all things, is being planned? Who plans something like that, and above all, why? And you say that one can save a lot of time, stress, and money once one gains insight into who organizes global crimes and how things work. Could you elaborate on that a bit? [Heiko Schöning:] Yes [laughs], the details, as I said, are laid out over many pages with over 500 sources, with all the trimmings. To sum it up very briefly, what we have here in the world are oligarchic families that have been operating for decades and, in some cases, for centuries. Oligarchs exist not only in Russia, but also in the West and in China. And they work together. I laid this out in the first volume, 'Game Over,’ using the example of the international drug trade, which has been running for over 200 years to this day – like a common thread. And there you can see that merchant families – drug-dealing families from the Anglo-American region and also from the Chinese region – have been working closely together for 200 years. There’s always some competition – they fight over the spoils, but not over the business model. And that business model is simply to plunder, seduce, and control the population. That’s what it’s ultimately about: power and control. So, that’s sort of the common thread here. And the ones who directly planned this “bacteria narrative” are Jeffrey Epstein and Leslie Wexner. And Leslie Wexner, that's an American-Israeli billionaire. And he has a lot of terrible things – not just sexual offenses – on his record, he’s been involved in them, but to this day he also owns the world’s largest lingerie company, Victoria’s Secret. I was just in Amsterdam. At the central station there’s a store like that. That means it’s very close, right next door. And I also described the oligarch Ronald Perelman who is also involved in these crimes, including those with antibiotics. And he’s also quite a colorful character, if you look into it. These people, like Perelman, also surround themselves with Hollywood stars and others. And that’s why people like Wexner and Perelman are simply being shielded from the public eye. And this is only gradually coming to light. So I can just briefly say, these are the networks that are still active today. And in particular, I have to say, once you gain insight, you can immediately recognize these patterns time and again. And you just tell yourself: ‘No, as a healthy person, I don’t necessarily have to take an antibiotic right now. Guys, no, we're not going along with this. We know we can't trust on this. We know, after all, who planned this all along.’ And I have to tell that to all good politicians and all good doctors as well. We must take crime in the healthcare system and global crime seriously. Otherwise, we’ll just keep stumbling around in the dark. And it is what it is. And things have been going like this for a long, long time. [Kla.TV:] Yes, you’ve also said time and again that medicine is the wrong battlefield, that it’s being used as a distraction. Is that also true in this case? [Heiko Schöning:] Yes, absolutely. Thank you for the quote. And this isn’t primarily about the battlefield of medicine. And I say this as a medical professional – I mean, not all experts become specialists in bacteriology, meningitis, meningococcal disease, and so on. That is not that important. It is much more important, just as with Covid, which I predicted months in advance, that we say: “Wait a minute, if someone says this is premeditated and specifically this mass distribution, this false, unprecedented mass distribution of antibiotics, someone predicted that beforehand and already linked it to proven criminals, then everything else must be a trick.” Exactly. And then let's please just focus on these criminal networks. Because ultimately, what should it lead to? We saw it with Covid too, didn’t we? If we go over all these details with endless medical evidence, then even after years we’ll simply arrive at the conclusion: “Oh, those were criminals after all; they tricked us. This means, we‘ll have to deal with the criminals.” Yes, exactly. But you can just skip all this if you know: “Wait a minute, these are criminal structures that have demonstrably planned this in advance. And now it has happened. Now, starting in March 2026, they’re actually trying to stoke this killer-bacteria panic. From England, New Zealand, now France, and also spreading to Germany.” And that’s the big opportunity for us to now share this information – which, thankfully, has already been published and is available in many good articles, including on Kla.TV, and is already available for free in many languages, we should definitely spread this information now, right? And that is very important. And my call to people at the end of this speech is to: ‘Take action now, spread this information now, so that we won’t end up with a massive Corona 2.0.’ Because that’s obviously what they want to push through now in the shadow of this Iran war. [Kla.TV:] Yes, that's a very important point. We can see there are international criminals at work. But when we look back to Germany, there has been no reappraisal of Corona since. The politicians, the authorities, the courts, the Enquête Commission [to initiate a judicial inquiry], they are all stonewalling. Wouldn’t it be the order of the day now to demand a ruthless reckoning with the previous pandemic? What is your opinion on this? [Heiko Schöning:] Yes [laughs], of course you can demand that. Of course we've been demanding that for years, right from the start. But if you turn the tables, what are they supposed to do? They have so much dirt on their hands that they would have to be charged and sent to prison. They will continue to stonewall and cover everything up. There are no mirrors in the government. They’ll always say something like: “No, I didn’t do anything. I didn’t do anything wrong.” They‘ll never look back and will never fully admit it. We just have to take matters into our own hands and stop following the bad things. We have to free ourselves from these constraints and become economically autonomous ourselves, so that we don’t let ourselves being forced again, just like these poor students are being forced now. And I think we now have the chance to spread the correct information about these criminal networks. I particularly recommend Whitney Webb’s books “One Nation Under Blackmail”. Especially regarding Epstein and the entire international network. So please don’t let yourself be distracted by three million Epstein pages that are being dumped onto the market as the “Epstein Files.” That’s a distraction. Everyone is allowed to pick out a few snippets here and there. But you’d be better off reading 500 pages twice – concise and to the point – so you can get a clear picture and understand the pattern! That way, you can really save yourself a lot of time, money, and stress, and keep your health intact, also for your family. And ultimately, it’s about spreading this awareness now, to say: ‘Wait a minute, this bacteria narrative with this misguided mass distribution of antibiotics – it’s already in a book. Let’s distribute that now. And please the English edition of it: “Attack on the Microbiome” – send that to all friends in the UK and the English-speaking countries as well! Also the free, well-translated Kla.TV interviews and lectures on the topic! Start spreading the word immediately! And then we really have a chance to stop it. Because then we possess our strongest counter-force, and that is informed laughter. [Kla.TV:] Heiko Schöning, thank you very much for this assessment and your tireless persistence. Thank you, see you next time! [Heiko Schöning:] You’re welcome, all the best!

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Sources/Links: Books of Heiko Schöning: Attack on the Microbiome (English version) GAME OVER II https://eticamedia.eu/produkt/attack-on-the-microbiome/
Game Over I Covid-19 | Anthrax-01 https://eticamedia.eu/produkt/game-over/
Book by Whitney Webb: One Nation Under Blackmail The sordid union between Intelligence and Organized Crime that gave rise to Jeffrey Epstein (Vol. 2) https://eticamedia.eu/produkt/blackmail-erpressung-2/
In case of an isolated meningococcal meningitis the fatality rate in Germany is ca. 1%. https://flexikon.doccheck.com/de/Meningokokken-Meningitis
Killer bacteria panic in England – Is the attack on the microbiome starting? (March 20th 2026) https://infotakt.kla.tv/p/killerbakterien-panik-in-england
https://t.me/rechtsanwaeltin_beate_bahner/34363
https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/2034303932697018703
welt.de Even years after taking antibiotics, the microbiome is still altered: https://www.welt.de/wissenschaft/article69b918cf17184da7cffdc5aa/darm-hinterlaesst-spuren-das-mikrobiom-ist-noch-jahre-nach-einnahme-von-antibiotika-veraendert.html
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-026-04284-y
Media Reports on bacteria panic: https://www.the-independent.com/news/health/meningitis-outbreak-kent-university-canterbury-cases-b2940304.html
https://www.tagesspiegel.de/internationales/es-ist-wie-covid-20-schulerin-und-student-sterben-bei-meningitiswelle-in-england-15374384.html?icid=topic-list_15372794___
https://www.tagesspiegel.de/wissen/die-bakterien-verbreiten-sich-durch-engen-kontakt-england-reagiert-auf-meningitis-ausbruch-mit-impfungen-und-antibiotika-15372794.html
France: https://www.the-sun.com/news/16113380/meningitis-death-nuclear-worker-normandy-unprecedented-uk-outbreak/
https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/2034303932697018703
Heiko Schöning already warned in these Kla.TV broadcasts: Corona 2.0 – New Terrorist Attack with bacteria? Interview with Heiko Schöning www.kla.tv/27731
Heiko Schöning warns: The Next Attack are Bioweapons and Bacteria! (AUF1-Interview) www.kla.tv/27249
www.kla.tv/HeikoSchoening
Simulation game Pegasus 2025: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/schools-locked-down-again-in-secret-pandemic-drills/
https://tkp.at/2025/11/25/geheime-pandemie-simulationsuebung-in-uk/
30 billion for the next pandemics & new Simulation Games 2025: Enterovirus targets children https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWHA4UcJwzM
Enquete-Commission on Corona with Dr. Sterz etc. Lauterbach verteidigt sich https://www.bundestag.de/ausschuesse/weitere_gremien/ee01/anhoerungen/1150882-1150882
Creative Commons Lizenzen https://www.creativecommons.org/licenses/