Never Again! An Account of Unpunished Covid Crimes – Interview with Dr. Mark Trozzi

24.12.2025 | www.kla.tv/39880

Interviewer: We're so happy to have Dr. Mark Trozzi from Canada. Doctor, thank you so much for joining us, for joining KLA. We welcome you. Dr. Mark Trozzi: That's pleasure, Daniel. Thanks for having me. Interviewer: Could you start with just a brief bio, a brief introduction about yourself? Dr. Mark Trozzi: Oh, certainly. So I'm Canadian and from the province of Ontario. I graduated medical school, University of Western Ontario in 1990. And from there, I have 27 years experience in emergency medicine. I've taught medical school at three universities in Canada. The last decade before COVID, I mostly taught trauma medicine and critical resuscitation. I taught doctors from across the country and around the world. And I'm a nature lover. And my career up until the launch of COVID, I tend to work in situations where you really only have one doctor for all emergencies. I would often, I did like rural emergency, which would mean that whatever happened within a hundred miles, whether it was a car accident or someone, you know, unstable thinking about killing themselves or a woman in birth or a gunshot or a kid with a broken arm or a leg, I did all that. So, so a really excellent career. I love my career, had a fabulous record. I've never been fired from a job before COVID. I've never, you know, my record with the medical college was really great. And then came COVID. And so when COVID came, everyone can remember where they were. I was essentially sitting in an empty emergency department while people were being told on the news that the emergency departments were full. So that was a bit odd right off the get-go. And then, so in an emergency department was empty and preparing for, we were told a novel coronavirus. So naturally I researched because I thought, well, when these people get here, I'm going to be ready because I'm going to study this coronavirus business and know how to treat it. And it didn't take long to know that there were treatments like hydroxychloroquine and zinc and and of course the standard treatment all pneumonia no matter what pneumonia no matter what it starts with a virus a toxin whatever any pneumonia that actually progresses pneumonia you must treat with antibiotics or people die so that was a very strange thing because we were told Interviewer: Are we talking like around January 2020 here? Dr. Mark Trozzi: Well, no, we're talking like March. So March, April. So now, you know, COVID's going on. The televisions everywhere in the world are doing these PCR tests, which I also would study and learn were being abused dramatically to falsely represent cases and mortality. Interviewer: Yep. Dr. Mark Trozzi: And so at that time I'm researching, the hospital's empty. I mean, imagine I've worked for 27 years in emergency. And I've had quiet days compared to super busy days, but I've never in my career had an empty hospital with nobody there. And I literally worked entire 14 hour shifts without a single patient. While the news was saying the hospitals are full, the doctors are risking their lives. There were people standing across the street holding signs. We love you doctors. And I'm inside saying, after a while, I started to say to people, do you realize this is COVID theater? We're maintaining a deception of the public here. And, and then you saw the suppression of treatment. So I would study treatments. People would talk about no antibiotics. I said, well, that's insane. We've been treating pneumonia for a hundred years. Any pneumonia, if it actually is pneumonia, not just somebody saying pneumonia, but somebody knows how to diagnose pneumonia, you give antibiotics. We're told no antibiotics. So 2020 was a year where I did a lot of research and I learned a lot. Interviewer: Briefly, doctor, briefly, what was the reaction of your colleagues, nurses and doctors and administration at your hospital when you were early on pointing out that the emperor had no clothes? Dr. Mark Trozzi: Well, you know, progressively becoming marginalized and alienated and literally having people, for instance, I'll think of two in particular. One was a young nurse and she'd worked with me for several years. And I'm good at emergency medicine. I had a very good reputation with the public. I mean, patients were very happy with my care. And working with me, I think, was interesting because we did great work. If you wanted to see people get helped, no matter what they came in with, work with me. We're into that. So this young nurse who had a very respectful relationship with me, and I mean, at this point, I'm 55 years old when COVID has launched. So I'm a senior doctor and here's a junior nurse. And when they came through talking about giving the injections, which of course I was studying those too before anybody got injected. I knew it was a genetic experiment at best and by no means a vaccine because of the ingredients. I mean, this is hard science, not debatable. And I'd been telling my staff, Hey guys, this supposed vaccine, i mean, I'm reading the emergency use authorization documents. This is by no means a safe thing, nor is it necessary. All the science is wrong. And when the admin team came through, this young nurse was sitting there and they were talking about, Oh yeah, next week we're going to be the first to get the shots and everything. And I looked at her cause she heard me talk and I said, you weren't actually thinking about getting that, are you? After everything I've told you? And now imagine, this is how deep the psyop goes. This is how deep mind control works. She looked at me. She'd been working with me for four years, seen me like save lives. And she says, are you really a doctor? Okay. Interviewer: Oh, man. Dr. Mark Trozzi: And there were other examples of that. There was there was a young person, paramedic who worked with me and I, and I think he was a great guy and he was very good paramedic. You gotta remember everybody got screwed over mentally in COVID. Some of us resisted better than others. And that's just normal psychological demographics. It's some people are resistant to mind control. It doesn't make us superior. Interviewer: Yes. Dr. Mark Trozzi: It's just reality. This paramedic, used to talk to me, like with too much respect, in my opinion, he thought I was so amazing. Right. And it was, it was kind of fun, you know, to have a younger colleague, 20 years younger, who's like, you're amazing what you can do and what you know, and all this. So it was a very warm relationship to say the least. Tons of respect from him and me. I actually think he was a great paramedic and and he was a favorite of mine. A few days, a few months into COVID, He came in the hospital and him and I were standing together in the hall while some other things were going on around us. And I said to him, I won't say his name, but God bless him. I said, you know, none of this makes sense. And he looked at me and he said, are you giving me some kind of conspiracy theory? And I said, I said, maybe, maybe. And I'll kid you not. I'll kid you not. A young man who I have a great relationship with for years of tremendous respect. I never saw respect in his eyes ever again from that moment. It just shut down our relationship. I was not part of the grid. I was not part of the matrix. So that's what was happening to my colleagues. And you see, they were kept very busy, right? When you want to mentally control people, you keep busy. So you come out with things like, oh, it looks like six feet. It may be airborne. It might be five feet. Okay. We should mask at all times. No double mask. So keeping people busy with all this BS, and in panic, because remember, imagine you're a doctor going, Oh my God, any time someone's going to come in here with this virus that's unlike any virus ever. And I'm probably going to die like the characters on, you know, the, the show X, right? X factor. Sorry, the X files. And so These doctors were kept in fear. And then the other side of it was that there was a big carrot because think of it. Everybody likes a slack day at work. Right. So, you know, and true, if I came into work one morning and it was like, wow, there's no ambulances pending and there's two stable patients, I can actually have a coffee and have a chat with my friend before we start working. That's a rare event. Right. Interviewer: Yes. Dr. Mark Trozzi: But suddenly you come to work and you don't have to do anything, nothing like you saw it while I was researching around the clock. There were some famous people that made these dance videos, highly choreographed dance videos. I mean, maybe they were sending a message, guys, there's nobody here. Right. But the people were kept very busy. There was enough fear to say, like, don't go against this. Right. And medicine is a bit hierarchical. Like even myself, I'm an emergency doctor. If you come into a hospital in in the way I worked, I'm going to got whatever is wrong with you. I'm the guy I'm going to take care of you. But if let's say you have a rare infectious disease and I end up getting on a phone to a hospital far away and speaking with an infectious disease specialist about your case, I'm probably going to follow his advice. So if he says, Mark, oh, you know what? There's an unusual, you know, version of staff that could be prominent person, give them this slightly different stuff, your oxen or whatever. Okay. So. We're used to that. So the idea was presented that this infection was different than anything ever, that the super duper experts at the WHO were orchestrating everything. And don't be an idiot and start thinking, you know what you're doing. Follow the directions, stay busy following the directions. And by the way, you don't have to do any work and there's bonus money for everything to do with COVID. And at some point near the end of this, you're going have the most lucrative injection campaign you've ever seen in your life, but you're going to have to take it, but you're going to have to believe in it. So, I mean, they were manipulated in every way. Interviewer: Yes. So the incentive to keep your mouth shut and go along with the program was huge. One thing that - this reminds me of , is your most recent video where it's a panel discussion. And one of the early questions, the doctor who answered said, when we were told, I don't know if he used we, but he says, when doctors were told that this vaccine, and we'll get into the vaccine dangers later, but I want to mention this, when we were told that this is safe and effective, we "believed it". And I thought to myself, well, I did an interview with the John O'Looney, the undertaker who notices all the strands in the blood. And he said they know what they're doing. He says: No I've talked to nurses who know something's going on. But like you say, there's an incentive to not do anything, the don't want to lose their job, blah, blah, blah. I mean, a doctor with payments and so forth. So it's somewhere in the middle, isn't it? To what extent did the doctors like you say: Yeah, i know something's going on, but look, don't bother me. Dr. Mark Trozzi: Well, yeah, see, I'm one far end of the spectrum on this thing, just to be honest. Okay. So, for instance, I did what I had to do in terms of like, I had to wear one of those barriers on my face when I walked in the hospital. I didn't like it. And I knew it was counterproductive within a few weeks, but okay. I went along with that. I would try to, if there was a rare possible COVID case and believe me, they were actually rare where I was, I could send the family off with a prescription for something that would actually help, but it was a dangerous thing to do. But luckily there were very few, so that didn't really crop up very much. Sorry. Just track me back on the question there for a moment. Interviewer: Yeah, the difference between doctors who buy into the story and actually believe it and those who know something's going on. Dr. Mark Trozzi: Oh yes. Right. That's it. So, you know, whatever profession people are, there's a percentage of people that question things more and there's percentage people who are conformists. Medicine has actually been sculpted since the Rockefellers took over in the early 1900s to progressively make it a hyper conformist environment where the safe place is to do the same thing as everyone else. And it turns out big pharma is telling you what to do. And as long as you do that, doesn't matter how many people die, no problem. But if you do something different, even if you save a life, now you've stuck your neck out. So that's the political background before COVID even started. Right? Interviewer: And I would assume that that sort of environment begins in med school. Dr. Mark Trozzi: Oh yeah. And it's worse now than like I was teaching in medical school when this started and it's way worse now. The agenda, the WHO agenda, the whole psychological globalist agenda, is deeper in med school now than it was when I graduated decades ago, much more, but it was there then too. It's been a progression. You know, when you're herding cattle, you herd them progressively. Interviewer: Yes. Dr. Mark Trozzi: So in my case, as the pandemic or the plandemic or the spectacle continued, I was learning real science. And that's partly my grace is the type of career I had. I always worked as a lone doctor in an emergency department, remote. So I was used to not paying that much attention to geopolitical stuff. I was used to thinking and studying and always trying to ground what I'm doing in in you know science and, of course, ethics. See here's the thing: I wanted to know about this vaccine before anybody got it, like anything else. It's like: wait, we're thinking about giving a supposed it suddenly made out of the blue vaccine for a disease that we're being lied about and manipulated about with a PCR test. That's a scam. The way it's being used, et cetera, blocked treatments, falsified deaths, all this, you know, so that's the environment. I'm like, I want to know about this thing as soon as possible. So the soonest thing I could get that was solid was I got the emergency use authorization applications of Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca, as they submitted to the FDA and other agencies. So I read them, right? But now here's the fascinating thing. The first thing I read being a typical practical person I think, is the ingredients. I mean, what's the first thing you want to know about a thing? Well, what's in it. So most of them had it on page 11 or page 12. Ingredients. So this is what was so obvious immediately at that moment. I didn't need to go down the hall and check anything. I did learn a lot more about it for sure, but it was not a vaccine. A vaccine is a few hundred or a few thousand particles of the thing you're vaccinating against. Like when you like, what's I say? Oh, an attenuated virus. So you give people a couple hundred, a couple thousand damaged, modified, weakened, fragmented viruses that you're trying to, to vaccinate against. Now it's a questionable science in and of itself. However, this thing was clearly pegylated lipid nanoparticles containing modified messenger RNA. That's genetic stuff. Interviewer: Yeah, that's a mouthful. Dr. Mark Trozzi: Yeah. And within an hour, what you could say is, oh, they've come up with a well-founded - they pegylated nanoparticles were used in the past as experiments on like brain cancers. Cause you could deliver anything you put in a pegylated lipid nanoparticle will go everywhere in the body. Nothing stops it. Interviewer: What does pegylated mean? Dr. Mark Trozzi: So they take the lipid nanoparticles like a bubble of fat, right? Fat molecules and polyethylene glycol. Like people are used to ethylene glycol, that's your antifreeze ingredient. Polyethylene glycol is a polymer where they take ethylene glycol and they string string it together into chains. So these lipid nanoparticles that have the genetic payload in them, these tiny particles are little bubbles of fat and on the outer surface of the fat, there's all these little tails of polyethylene glycol. What that does is that stabilizes this little little particle and this particle just goes through membranes like a ghost goes through a wall. So what that means is, if you inject somebody with genetic material, the body's going to destroy it pretty much, right? But if you inject it inside a pegylated lipid nanoparticle, it's going to go everywhere in their body. Every cell, like no tissue is blocked and there it will deliver. Interviewer: Through the blood brain barrier? Dr. Mark Trozzi: Through the blood-brain barrier, through the placenta barrier, through the unborn child's blood-brain barrier, into an unborn baby's ovaries everywhere. Like you inject this, it goes everywhere. There's no barrier in the body that stops it. And not only does it go to all the organs and tissues, it literally, the bubble merges with cell membranes and just births into the cell the payload which was highly modified messenger RNA to cause human cells to make the most toxic part of their coronavirus that was designed which is the spike protein. So like even on the surface it's worse than that because we've analyzed the ingredients we've found DNA and all kinds of other garbage in there but that stuff is there so literally based on the ingredients you're going to actually genetically modify tissues through all the human's body. So they themselves manufacture a foreign toxic protein. Not only is it a toxin, but you know therefore they're going to be identified as foreign cells by the immune system and the immune system is going to attack them. Exactly what we've seen. You didn't need to run the experiment. This was a hundred percent predictable. And the fact that an emergency doctor who understands basic good biological science could spend a little time looking at their own paperwork and realize what I'm saying to you. Believe me, they knew it. There's no way that this was ever meant to solve anything by the people that understood what it was. And that's why, you know, we're at a point now where I have to agree with people like Dr. Sansone and that say, you know, let's be honest, knowing everything we know now, this is a biological weapon. This is not a vaccine. It's a biological weapon. Interviewer: Yes. And you say that you didn't even need to have the experiments, but you've done them. You've put together almost a thousand studies on the effects of the COVID-19 vaccination, according to my knowledge. And what did you learn for from from those studies? What was the main takeaway? Dr. Mark Trozzi: So, yeah, I've been informing the public from the beginning. So I've published thousands of written articles. I've been one of the authors in some of the actual research, the published papers. But before we go there, I just want to say that evidence at that point in the story. So imagine it's about October, 2020, the jobs are going to be rolled out by the end of the year. I'm reading these ingredients, learning what I'm just telling you right now. And I realize without any question that the entire population is being corralled into a poisoning of the most nefarious type. So I, so I literally resigned, I sold my house cause I knew they were going to financially torture any doctor that came out against the thing. So I sold my house, eliminated my debts, downsized my family's existence to much lighter financially. Because what did I really need? I needed a computer, I needed a small team and I needed to get to work and warn the public and research. So before anyone got a shot, I committed everything. I resigned all my jobs, I told the medical college, I was taking a leave of absence on a sabbatical to do human rights work for an unextended period. Now they would still attack me later, even though I like set down my entire income to warn the world. Right, which is of course necessary under a situation like that. Like, you have to know, and this is again people being mentally controlled. You have to know when to remember the basic premise that you cannot serve what is right. You cannot serve God. You cannot serve love. You cannot serve honor and truth if you're a slave to money. And that was the test for doctors. And unfortunately, as you know, humans are very prone to being slaves to money. And of course being mentally manipulated. So, so what did we learn after that? So first we learned that, yeah, that really was in there. Uh, we would learn, that depending on how well they manufactured, like the German working group was one of our first breakthroughs chemically on this thing. And the German working group was like a hundred scientists. They reported to us at the world counts for health. We got the message out to the world. The scientists, except for one, just, there was like many of them, but they were like, we don't want to stick our head up. Cause you know, they lock scientists up all over Europe and all around the world for revealing this stuff. So some of the things we found out then, one interesting one was: the better it was manufactured, which meant actually the more, even those little polyethylene glycol chains were. In other words, the more stable, those little delivery nanoparticles were, the more likely people were to die from those lots. So what it meant is the better the thing was made, the more deadly it was. That's one interesting thing. And we found tons of contaminants. There was a bunch of atoms. You're just like, what on earth is like that atom doing there? That's not part of any of the molecules. So with this spectroscopy, X-ray spectroscopy and various methods. So that was kind of a first layer of discovery. Then you go forward. Of course, on the sideline, there's the whole, like, what are the little, what are the little self-assembling things? I mean, that's a science that I'm not as expert in, but we'll just set that aside for now. The next biggest revelation was: Kevin McKernan, the geneticist, who got some of the mRNA samples. And he'd actually just he's in a totally different industry of of genetics. But I mean, this guy's very qualified. He's one of the authors of the Human Genome. And I don't mean God. I mean, one of the guys that did the Human Genome Project. But anyways, he he got some of the vials and any he analyzed them, using genetic analytical equipment and at at a very high tech level. I mean, this guy's got the lab to do it. And he said: Oh, wait a minute. About a third of this genetic material is not RNA. It's DNA. And they started looking at it. Oh, it's plasma DNA, which is a kind of like infectious DNA particle that's used between bacteria. And then he dove into, well, what's it doing there? And and and here's what the companies did. First of all, nobody should have took this thing, even if it was made perfect. Like, I mean, this thing was never a good idea. Okay. Interviewer: Because of the experimental nature of it? Dr. Mark Trozzi: Well, yeah, I mean, and it's not that experimental. You trigger human cells to make a toxic form protein. Do you need to run the experiment for a disease that we have cures for that we're being oppressed and that we're being lied to about the mortality rate that was actually like zero in children, right? So, so you don't run those kinds of crazy experiments, you know, and and that wouldn't be the way to do it for sure. I mean, we've never done a vaccine that was a genetic thing. And there's a whole business side to why that's such an attractive business for psychopaths. Interviewer: Yes. Dr. Mark Trozzi: But when Pfizer and Moderna submitted samples to the regulators, they made them using PCR replication technology, which means they made a pure product. Now still a terrible product. Nobody should have took it. A bullet's a bullet, but that's what they submitted. And then after they were approved, then they went back to the governments and said, oh, hey, listen, we're going to make it another way. Like we've got another manufacturing process. It's going to be the same thing. And the governments were like, oh, okay. I mean, the governments, it seems illegitimate to call them this after everything they' done. But anyways, the regulators, these old school regulators said, okay, just give us the recipe. So the recipe involved, instead of directly manufacturing a cleanish version of this RNA, They would use e coli bacteria, you know, like the kind that you test stool samples for and stuff. I mean, it's commonly used that they would genetically insert stuff into it. So it would make the genetic material in a DNA form. And then they would take that DNA form out of these vats full of bacteria and use that DNA to imprint and make the RNA. And then they would put in an enzyme and scrub out all the DNA and it would just be pure RNA. That's what they told the governments. Now there's two layers to this fraud. And the governments were like, perfect. No need to test it. Imagine, inject it into every one of the billion people on the planet that we can help you force to inject it into, but we're not going to test it. We're going to accept the stuff you already handed in, which again was a Frankenstein experiment in and of itself. So then, then you have, you know, Kevin McCurran, then you end up with Dr. David Speaker and others replicate this experiment a lot. And it's like, yeah, DNA, DNA, DNA, plasma, DNA, and they start to map it. And there's not just the genetic sequence for the spike protein. There's genetic sequences most notoriously in there. There's a bunch, there's a bunch, but the worst ones are derived. They're not the simian virus. They're derived from the simian virus and they are gene hacking tools known from research since the 1990s. That if you inject foreign DNA into a mammal cell and you get it inside the cell like a nanoparticle will, and if you include these little promoter enhancer sequences, they will facilitate that DNA being moved into the nucleus and integrated permanently into the genetic structure of that cell. And it's called genetically modifying the cell at the chromosome level. So that's the technology that's there. Interviewer: And they've known this for 6 years. Dr. Mark Trozzi: Well, we discovered, so the ability to use those promoter enhancer sequences in genetic experiments goes back to the nineties. But we've known this since April of 2023 or so, maybe February when, when Kevin McCurran exposed it and we immediately got the message to the world and other scientists repeated it. And, when we've brought it to, multiple of us have brought it to government, supposed government's attentions and they're like, ah, it's okay. Now this is where the fraud gets worse and it's Pfizer. Because you know those SV40 and promoter enhancer sequences? Okay, they're only in the Pfizer. They're not in the Moderna. I still wouldn't take a Moderna, but they're only in the Pfizer shots. And that when they had to hand in the recipe, member of government said, just give us the recipe and we'll believe you. So they hand in their second manufacturing process using e coli bacteria and plasma DNA. And there's a map. It's called plasmid map and they have to include in their recipe, the plasmid DNA that they use to create the process. And there's a bunch of genetic sequences in there and there's an explanation for all of them in this Frankenstein stuff, but they did not include the SV40 promoter enhancer sequences. Now there's only one way that that's not there. They committed fraud. They scrubbed it from their maps and handed in fraudulent maps to the governments covering up the evidence. Now, here's the saddest thing about that. When we pointed that out to the governments, I mean myself, by this point in the story, you know, the medical colleges are going to take my license, drive me into bankruptcy, you know, God knows what. And I said, hey guys, you could have never predicted this. You could have never predicted that Pfizer would commit fraud and put gene hacking tools in the shot. So no matter where you stood on this till now, if somehow you thought this shot was a good idea at this point, you must be awake that fraud's been committed. And you know what these old world governments did, these hostage agencies, they went, no problem. It's not a problem. There's nothing to see here. So that's a bit about those shots. Interviewer: I mean, we had a guy at the top of the COVID response in Fauci. He was prepared for this. He knew what was going to go on. Was the same sort of preparation done at every major country across the world? I mean, it seems like… Dr. Mark Trozzi: Yes. Interviewer: Okay. Dr. Mark Trozzi: Yes. Yeah. So, I mean, now, Fauci's got a special role in this. You've got remember, the the U.S. taxpayers have not only been injured, assaulted, and murdered with the the virus, the genetic code, and the vaccines, they were their taxes were funneled through Fauci to pay for it. So, Fauci is at the heart of creating the SARS-CoV-2 virus with its special toxic spike protein and then using it as an excuse to inject the population with a genetic experiment, which would cause them to poison themselves with this custom protein that they designed. So, you know, and as well, the founding CEO of Moderna that just was shell for four years before it got a huge government contract. I mean, this guy's so filthy in my opinion, but at the same time, stepping back to the global scene, right? The WHO was used as the conduit, as the funnel point of a globalist agenda in the population. Right. And the the laying the groundwork for this is quite extensive, including the appointing of a guy who's very nefarious. Look at his history as a leader of a pretty radical, violent communist party in Africa, Tedros, who somehow, not a medical doctor, a guy who had strong allegations of some exceptional fraud and like infectious disease epidemiology in Africa in his old career, before he became China's choice as the director of the WHO. Interviewer: China's choice? Dr. Mark Trozzi: Oh yeah, China set up Tedros. Yeah. Now, I mean, how does this really work behind the veil? Like, I mean, does this mean, oh, Chinese people are after us? No, all of these institutions, all of these governments, they're all infested with what I would call the parasite class, the enemies of mankind. So you, you know, you can't pick them out based on their skin color or their nationality. They have infiltrated all the old world institutions of the world. top down. And in the case of, of using health as a weapon against mankind, the WHO is the funnel point. Now look at how the WHO is funded. It gets a chunk of its funding from little people like you and me, taxpayers around the world, whose governments are involved in this thing that they should get out of and they funnel taxes to them, but we don't have any say in how it's spent. The other funding, the other big chunk of funding for the WHA comes from voluntary funding. And if you look at the voluntary funding, most of it by far, you can either trace back to Bill Gates or to Bill Gates's organizations. So you basically have this billionaire funnel point. Now what's different about voluntary contributions? Well, you get to have some say in how the money's spent. So imagine that the taxpayers of the world put in a bunch of money, a billionaire puts in a bunch of money, and then he gets to say how it's spent and how is it spent? Well, the very minimum, as an advertising organization beyond advertising, they didn't just advertise the shots and this whole agenda, they forced it down the world's throats as it, you know, under this false state of emergency. And then people like Bill Gates who gave, you know, tons of money to the WHO that wasn't donation. He made a fortune. Like imagine if you could force the world to take a toxic shot. Like he said, I put in a billion dollars. I took out $21 billion dollars and that's a long time ago that he reached that profit level. So, you know, and when we look in our country, for instance, you know, the WEF is very involved in this. True. Like, you know, when you talk about the globalist parasite class, they have a few organizations that work together and the WEF and the UN are definitely in there and WHO is part of the UN essentially. And so as Klaus Schwab, previous leader of the WEF said, more than half of the Canadian cabinet is us. Right? So you have a foreign entity, which I would argue is a hostile foreign entity. You have multiple hostile foreign entities, including the UN and including the WEF running things. And I mean, the system of, is completely undermined. You know, a combination of fraud propaganda, like in Canada, the current government since before COVID, when they were under very strong allegations by the top legal authority in the country of obstruction of justice, you know, and I'm speaking of SNC Lavalin and the great Jody Wilson Rabel, who was our minister of justice at the time who got fired for pointing out that the government was committing crimes. And then they embarked on a massive propaganda campaign and they said, we're going to bail out the media. I mean, out of the blue, I think it was 2015, 2017, out of the blue, we're going to bail out the media. And literally they started dishing millions and millions of dollars to all these media outlets and turned them into propaganda machines, you know, and now they're doing the same with our police. Interviewer: I remember that. remember that. Yeah. Dr. Mark Trozzi: Yeah. So, you know, there's, there's multiple ways that they're infiltrating and taking over the world. And another one is the administrative state. So for instance, Medical, why would every medical college in almost the world persecute to the point of criminal charges? Some were killed doctors who would say the sort of things I'm saying, or try to treat their patients with this COVID infection in a way that worked and demonstrated by no means did you need to experiment on them with the genetic so-called vaccine. It's because this WHO web, is a backdoor into all the governments and then the medical regulators are similarly hijacked. So, you know, every medical college just goes along with the agenda, promotes the agenda. So whatever province you're in, whatever state you're in, whatever country you're in, doctors, nurses had their licenses revoked, got fired from their jobs. And this creates a false impression of a consensus because unfortunately, you know, humans, we are weak and in terms of, you know, we can be tempted to do the wrong things or not to think so that we keep our money in our job or feed our kids, which I mean, these are important things. So you get, so you created this consensus where it looked like all the doctors agreed, but all the doctors were told to shut their mouths and do exactly this. Cause that was the right thing. Just believe us. And if you don't, we're going to fire you. So you won't even be there to talk to the patients anyways. So this really did happen folks. This really was a global agenda. Every country in the world pretty well. Interviewer: Wow. Hey, I got to ask, I have to throw this in. I'm in Montana in the Bitterroot Valley, just south of Missoula. I guess it would be about a four hour drive if I were to go up to Alberta. But we have a place here called Rocky Mountain Labs, which is, I don't know, a level four biohazard plant. research institution of the NIH. And I've heard it said that ah it's it's under Fauci, of course. And I've heard it said that lots of COVID-19 vaccine research was done here. Are you familiar with this institution at all? Dr. Mark Trozzi: Not that particular one, but yeah, there was there was definitely a network of institutions that were used. You know some of the research even moved into Canada at one point. And then you know the finishing touches in Wuhan in terms of the the virus and and the genetic sequence of the virus. It's really the spike protein, which is the main modification that weaponized part of this coronavirus is is is a parallel genetic sequence used for the injections to genetically modify people to to make it. And yeah, so I don't, I'm not familiar with that particular one, but it wouldn't surprise me because there was definitely a network of labs used. Interviewer: So after all of your research and all of your findings, did you end up losing your license and how were you persecuted in that way or in other ways? Dr. Mark Trozzi: Yeah, yeah, well that's interesting. So so imagine, it's early 2021. I'm on a mission to stop people from being fraudulently poisoned. And I set down my income. I resigned from my jobs. Like imagine, I mean, I didn't take my career lightly. I worked very hard from time. I was a kid to where I was and I told the college I'm taking a sabbatical, the medical college I'm taking. And it true was, I did walk away from actual clinical practice. I've never actually made a dime since then doing clinical medicine, despite working way more than I ever have. And I began to publish the truth. So the first thing I published, for instance, was a simple video called, this is not a vaccine. You know, shortly after that, after consulting with Reiner's team, I created an essay and a video about how this, that doctors and nurses, I was warning them, doctors, nurses, be careful. We're being, we're being coerced to commit medical assault against population. This is actually against international law, prevent, you know, of federal laws, provincial and state laws. Like it was against everything, which was wild. I'm like, wow, isn't this weird? Like the medical college is now enforcing medical assault and malpractice. And I'm having to give up my practice to try to protect the public against it and warn them and also trying to warn the doctors and nurses. So, and I just got really busy on that. And I kept going. I mean, you know, I kept going and and, you know, within the first year I'd reached millions of people. At at one point I was using 23 languages and unfortunately i had to set that down at one point, but at one point reached people all around the world. I know we've saved a lot of lives. A lot of less people took the shot and I feel good about that. So part way into this, the college launches an investigation into me based on what? Well, they didn't, they based like, I'm not the only doctor that got persecuted in Canada for doing the right thing by these people. Um, but, and they didn't need patient complaints. They would just make them up. Like they would, they would get the public health officer to complain against Dr. Phillips so or somebody like wrote something on, I think mine was they, showed a tweet. Some guy tweeted, isn't it scary that this guy works in our hospital about me? And I don't even work in his hospital. Like I don't even know the guy. That was the foundation of their first investigation. I mean, they just based on anything. And the point was, you know, it's like going to criminal gang grabs you by the neck. It's like, look, there ain't any rules here. You're just going to submit. That's how this goes. Now, on the other hand, i was more on a mission from God, which was to save lives. And I was like, whatever. In fact, my first, you know, a real partner in this fight with me has been a good guy named Michael Alexander, who's a constitutional lawyer and committed a lot, given up a lot in this fight. And when he told me they were investigating me, I said, but that's great. And he goes, how do you figure? And I said, well, if they've got 19 investigators investigating me, They're going to go on my website, right? And they're going to learn all this important stuff because I'm not making it up. I mean, I might write articles for the public, but I reference science. I explain things. I said, so I think that these investigators are going to go back to the leadership and say, no, no, we don't need to go after this guy. We need to call this guy in here. We have a major problem. And he's right. That didn't happen. But to my surprise. A little further into the story, there was a group of really heroic doctors like Dr. Rochagne Kilian, Dr. Francis Christian, Dr. Stephen Malthouse, Dr. Patrick Phillips. And anyways, and you know how when you guys had the Great Barrington Declaration in the U.S., we put out a declaration in Canada. But we also met because people were people that knew what was going on. Now, remember, they really propagandized the public. So it's only a small portion of the population, but that's a lot of people, that was lucky enough to know what Stephen Malthouse, Francis Christian, Mark Trozzi, Patrick Phillips and others were saying. You know, and they didn't want the shot in them or their kids. So they were desperate to get exemption notes because they also want to keep their jobs because feeding your family, keeping your home, keeping your job or your kids want to play sports and that's their dream. All these reasons people were being coerced. So we really sat down and said, well, you don't need an exemption to be forced the medical thing. Like, that's crazy. Like I needed to, we're going to punch you in the head unless you have a note. Right. Interviewer: Yes. Dr. Mark Trozzi: But we said, people are desperate. So we did a lot of research. I met with lawyers and we had conversations. And in the end, I said, or we said, well, the fact that you don't want it means you're exempted because it's a medical crime to give somebody an injection they don't want. So we issued some exemptions and began this process. And when they saw that, anybody who initiated, if somebody would report to college, because people were conned, right? So, that you know, somebody owns a grocery store. And they've got one who comes in with their exemption. Interviewer: Yes. Dr. Mark Trozzi: And the grocery store owner is like propagandized, living in fear in this whole psyop. And he's like, wait, I've got one worker saying not going to take the shot. And the rest of us are going to die because of him. This is not so they would report them. And the college would go after whoever wrote the notes. So then they started another investigation into me. And but this is where it gets even weirder. And it shows how sinister they've become. It's a bit of a sad thing. You know, it's like. and You watch somebody fall that far from grace. Interviewer: Yes Dr. Mark Trozzi: There was a doctor named Dr. Crystal Luchkiw, and she's a good doctor too. And she went against the agenda. For instance, she wouldn't commit fraud on death certificates. And they said, look at this patient died of COVID. She goes, that patient died of stage four cancer. No, they died of COVID, changed certificate. Why would the administration of hospitals say it change the certificate? Well, because remember that big flow of money from the WHO managed system? Interviewer: Yes. Dr. Mark Trozzi: The hospital gets more money for a COVID death. So God's sake, if you can justify it, swab their nose. Hey, it turns out tons of them are positive when you do that. You can. So she went against things like that and she spoke out and then someone accused her of giving an exemption to a fellow who had a liver transplant, which of course would be a very good idea, though they never even proved it. But based on that, they went after this young doctor. And began the process of destroying her clinic and destroying her young family and take, you know, getting, lose their home and all the things that they were doing. And they do it in front of the other doctors. So the doctor told me, you know what, just go along with things. Interviewer: Oh yes Dr. Mark Trozzi: So her practice had been shuttered, like door closed for six or seven months when the great lawyer I was telling you about, Michael Alexander reached out to me and said, Hey Mark, you know, you still have a license. It's got restrictions. And Crystal's practice, she literally had a patient commit suicide and you know, these people desperately need their doctor. She had a different kind of practice than mine entirely, but more, a lot of chronic pain, a lot of elderly people that really needed that regular care and they were falling apart. Interviewer: Yes Dr. Mark Trozzi: And so Michael said, could you go do the practice? I said, Michael, I'm so busy on a mission. I'm putting in 15 hours a day here fighting a war. I said, but here's what I'll do. I'll talk to Dr. Chris Shoemaker, who is another great truth telling doctor from Canada. And maybe him and I can go to that town, the city where she lives and bunker down. And between the two of us, we can see take care of her practice and we can both continue our activism because he's been one of the best activists in our country for sure. So we went there. Now I have to tell the college I have to, you know, just report to them. I'm resuming practice because remember, I told him I'm taking break for practice. I haven't even seen a patient while they're investigating me for malpractice or something. Right. It's just crazy. So when I told them, yeah, on this date, I'll be returning to practice at this address. So you can imagine like, oh, you're going to go and save the doctor that we're taking down. Interviewer: Yeah. Dr. Mark Trozzi: So this what's crazy. And this is almost this verges on the spiritual side of things because. So the day that I start. That practice, the day I tell them that I'll start, they literally suspend my license the first afternoon that I'm there. So I literally got to see a morning worth of patients. Right. and they suspended my practice. They launched another investigation in Dr. Shoemaker at the same time. And within a few days, poor young doctor Luchkiw watched all her equipment leave the building and watch the end of her medical practice. But here's the thing that's crazy, too. And while say a bit spiritual, because these shots are super toxic and and anybody who can still think knows that you don't. You can look at it a lot of ways. You can study the data. You can study the microscopy. You just walk around your neighborhood and ask people, do you take the shot? Do you have cancer? And start looking at what's going on. It's a bit obvious to those that can think. Interviewer: Yes. Dr. Mark Trozzi: But in that, in the first four people I saw that day, I saw six major adverse events that had happened to them while their doctor was sidelined and someone else had injected him at some clinic somewhere with this injection they were putting in everybody. And by that I'm talking. New brain cancer, new lung cancer, big blood clots in the lungs, blood clots in the legs, hemorrhagic rash all over two of them for just an extra one. Bell's palsy and... Interviewer: Have you diagnosed these things? Dr. Mark Trozzi: This, I've seen these people who haven't seen their doctor who wouldn't have given the shot for six months. And these are what they've come back with. I mean, some of these things have been diagnosed, but during that six months, they got the shots and they came on. Interviewer: Yeah Dr. Mark Trozzi: So at a certain level, I mean, I'm mostly a doctor and a scientist. So, you know, I don't go too far in the spiritual realm, but it's good to have at least, you know, you got to have a leg on. At that point, it just was so obvious to me. It's like, wow, I'm so, I've been so right about everything I've warned about. And it's so clear how wrong the medical college is, how they've literally become minions of evil that on the same day, I would see all these people showing me, oh my God, I was right to try to stop these shots. Interviewer: Yeah. Dr. Mark Trozzi: And over here, the college is like, we're getting you out of practice, boy. And you're not saving Dr. Luchkiw's practice. It's crazy, man. Interviewer: You needed that experience to get out there and have that one morning with those patients to prove everything. Dr. Mark Trozzi: Yeah, not that. Yeah. and i mean, in a way, I didn't need it because I've been studying the data from the beginning and, you know, the data is so clear. I mean, when they rolled out these shots that we tried to stop, look at US VAERS data. You had more death from one vaccine, supposed vaccine from this shot. Alone in several months, then you had, then you had deaths from all vaccines for all diseases, all combined for 30 years, all pooled together. I mean, it was, the signal was so loud and that's why everybody that's been involved in suppressing that signal, like you better ask for forgiveness and claim that you're in a psychological operation and mind control, but you can't take any credit. But otherwise, I mean, People need to realize, these people are serious about killing us. Not just me, all of us. Interviewer: Yes. Well, let's briefly talk about actual figures. I mean, however close we can get to the actual figures, what would you say is a ballpark figure of percentage of people who have taken the shot, let's say an average of the original shot or shots plus a booster in that range, percentage of these people who have been damaged, who have some kind of sickness because of it. Above 50? Dr. Mark Trozzi: Well, I think ultimately, yeah, and here's why this injection or weapon, if you like, has multiple phases of impact. So, you know, there's some people that just dropped dead right away and we all saw it like the person shaking in the bed, you know, when they got the shot. Interviewer: Yes Dr. Mark Trozzi: So it's anaphylaxic rate was six, I think six times normal. So, I mean, terms of having a sudden dramatic reaction and potentially dying or dying, it was more than normal, but that was just the initial bump. Interviewer: Yeah. Dr. Mark Trozzi: Then you got into the early blood clots, strokes, pulmonary embolism, the lungs, the heart attacks, the myocarditis, the sudden dropping dead from heart arrhythmias that we saw young athletes do. That was kind of a next phase. So that took a bunch of people out over those next months. Let's see, then you get into the, now we're into like sort of, I don't know what you want to call the phase, but now we're into phase what you're seeing now. Is first of all, dramatic cancer genesis. And, you know, recent, when you look at mechanisms, there's 28 very reasonable mechanisms by which, and growing, that list keeps growing. We keep studying it. How could these shots cause cancer? Well, here's 28 ways. And of course, genetically modifying a cell with a genetic modifying injection, screwing around with chromosomes, for sure, that's a great way to trigger cancer. But the other thing is, When the human body and you have tissue, now and maybe this important thing to say, remember I was mentioned about a real vaccine is a couple hundred or a couple thousand particles of what you're trying to vaccinate against these shots. Interviewer: Yeah. Dr. Mark Trozzi: You know how many copies of this genetic foreign code they contain? Tens of trillions, tens of trillions. Okay? So when you have that much delivery and you have cells throughout all the body and, you know, different people, the biodistribution will happen. That's why some people became quadripleges because it concentrated in their spinal cord. Their spinal cord started to manufacture this foreign spike protein. Their immune system then attacked their spinal cord and destroyed it. Right? And I've interviewed those people, I know those people, I visited them in the hospital. Right. You know, some other kid, it it got into some of the conduction pathways in their heart and there their own immune system attacked that. And now they have a dysrhythmia and you have a young kid who playing sports and just drops dead. Right? But when you have the body producing this toxic foreign protein in large amounts and consistently, and it doesn't go away. They lied. They said: oh yeah, I've seen Pfizer's graphs. But I've seen the real graphs from from the laboratory. We have people still producing this toxic protein 700 days after the last injection. That's pretty permanent type of thing. And we don't know when it ends for some people, if ever, or while they're alive. But when you have a foreign protein being produced on mass, your immune system gets really busy. It gets really busy dealing with this protein. It gets really busy at attacking people's own cells where the spike proteins produce because they look like foreigners. I mean, imagine if I had like a hat from another company on, you'd be like, he doesn't work here. Interviewer: Yes. Dr. Mark Trozzi: So when a cell starts producing spike proteins, the immune system is like; whoa, foreigner, attack it. And it should, and it does. So the immune system gets really busy and you have all kinds of autoimmune diseases. And there's another element of that, which is, the way they made this modified messenger RNA, in addition to mostly making like 75% making this toxic customized spike protein, it just makes in a whole bunch of protein, random junk. And all that random junk can trigger an autoimmune disease because any random protein might resemble a protein of your own cells or some of your own tissues so that your immune system is triggered, basically immunized against yourself. It's triggered against this protein but that also means it's triggered against part of your body. And we're seeing a massive swell of autoimmune diseases and they're all almost all being misdiagnosed because doctors that are still in the system, they're not allowed to even think about or talk about what I'm saying. So they say: oh, well, this person has lupus. Yeah, they got lupus and autoimmune disease, but they have it for a different reason than they ever did before. And if you're not dealing with that underlying cause, you're missing the boat. You can still bill the patient. You can still bill the government. You can still pump them full of drugs. You can still fill out the death certificate. and You can still make all your money and pat yourself on the back, but you've missed the boat. Interviewer: But do they have to report? Okay, let's say that lupus is diagnosed. Don't they have to at least take a stab or take a shot at what happened? Shouldn't that be on the report? Dr. Mark Trozzi: Oh, it should be. Interviewer: Like the cause? Dr. Mark Trozzi: Well, yeah, let me tell you a few stories that demonstrate that. Charles Hoffe is one of the great Canadian doctors who did and continues to do the right thing. And a bunch of people were injected in the rural community where he practiced emergency and general practice and family practice in British Columbia. And a largely indigenous or, you know, we say native community. Anyways, bunch people got injected, not by him. And I think he was actually away at the time for like a week vacation or two week vacation or something. Came back. And he's got these patients with all these neurologic problems. You know, they're dizzy, they've lost their balance. And, you know, and he's like: what's going on with my patients? And he starts doing tests and he tests their D-dimer and he realizes: oh, look at this, they all have increased blood clotting, which of course the clot shot, that's a whole other, there's many mechanisms how these shots work and blood clotting is part of it. So he tries, he reaches out to the college and he reaches out to the ministry of health and says: Hey, I've got these patients who have these new neurologic problems. They have elevated D-dimers and what's going on. Like he just reaching out for help. And the response he gets is essentially: Nothing's going on there. There's no connection. And so then he says: well, I've got to get these people help. So he tries to get some neurologists. So he refers him to a neurologist and the neurologist says - like when he sends to the neurologist and says: Yeah, these people had this vaccine and now they have this reaction. The neurologist says: well, I don't treat vaccine reactions. I'm a neurologist. And he goes: yes, but it's a neurologic reaction. And they say: yeah, but I can't treat it. You have to go to a vaccine specialist, the vaccine injury specialist that the government sets up. So you go to them and you know what they say? That's not an adverse event, that's got nothing to do with it. And if you persist, Dr. Hoffe, we're going to come after your license, which they did. And so what about autopsies? So here's the thing, Dr. Arne Burkhardt, Dr. Ryan Cole and others have been real great leaders on this is. Interviewer: Wait, can I just jump in here? Dr. Mark Trozzi: Yeah. Interviewer: Okay. So the superior is talking to the doctor here. You continue along this path and try to make any connection with the vaccine, you're going to lose your license, we're going go after you. Essentially, right? Dr. Mark Trozzi: Basically. Yeah. Interviewer: So at that point, does the doctor have to put something on the report? Does he have to make something up as to the cause of the lupus, for example? Or does he just leave that blank? No cause or cause unknown. Dr. Mark Trozzi: Just call it lupus. I mean, that's an old disease. Or just call it myocarditis. For instance, myocarditis is a rare condition. Interviewer: Okay. Yeah. Dr. Mark Trozzi: Before COVID, before these shots, I should say, myocarditis is a rare condition. There's no such thing as mild myocarditis. Interviewer: Yes. Dr. Mark Trozzi: Like I mean, I've been working in emergency for decades, okay? I know this subject very well. If I see somebody with an indication, even like subclinical, even if they seem well, if I see an indication they have myocarditis, I'm getting on the phone with an intensive care specialist in this, and this person is going to be transferred to an ICU and meticulously taken care of in the hopes to minimize the damage and avoid the reality that, you know, a significant percentage of them are dead within five years. I mean, myocarditis is a serious condition. Now you have a new kind of myocarditis. Heart cells have been genetically modified to produce a foreign protein, the immune system's attacking their own heart, but it's still myocarditis, right? Now in Germany, there was a group of families going back to 2021 and there they had dead family members and they had autopsies, public autopsies. And the public autopsy said: yeah, there's nothing to do with COVID. And they went to Dr. Burkhardt and said: would you come out of retirement, great professor Arne Burkhardt and do autopsy, repeat these samples? So he did. And what he did is he did immunofluorescence staining for the spike protein that is produced by the genetically hacked cells. And what he could demonstrate in the series grew, but even in the initial series of about 15, is 14 out of the 15 who were told that that their death had nothing to do with the shot clearly was caused by the shot and the other one probably. And so as Dr. Cole, the other pathologist said, if you don't look for it, you won't see it So if you don't do immunofluorescent standing for the spike protein, you don't see it. So what I see, and I have families come to me to say: Hey, can you please review my 17 year old son's autopsy? Because he died 20 days after the shot and they're telling me a nothing to do with it. And I go through these autopsies that are done in Canada where nobody's doing the proper testing. And they go to great lengths looking for things like looking for rare genetic disorders that might be a cause for him to have an unexpected heart arrhythmia to cause him to drop dead like he did. And they don't find them pages of this pages of genetic screening. They don't find it and all this stuff. And in the end they say: well, he died of a sudden heart arrhythmia, probably of an unknown cause. And it doesn't have anything to do with the vaccine. But if they did the proper test, they would see it clearly was due to the vaccine. And we actually had that young man, some of his tissue samples, some of our police, because our police got fired for being real police too. So they formed organizations to try to help the public. And they got samples down to Dr. Cole's lab before Dr. Cole's lab was shut down by persecution there and in the States. And yeah, definitely that kid died from the shots too. And there's a lot of it. And just to wrap up, sorry, we've gone on quite a bit of a tangent from your initial question, but another major mechanism is, the immune system is so busy fighting the spike protein attacking itself that the immune system becomes depleted. And that is very clear. You look at the work of Dr. Villa. I'm actually involved in research now on this subject. I can't tell you results of research we haven't finished, but I can tell you the results she can tell you, and I've interviewed her on clinical stuff. And a lot of people are describing the same thing, which is - remember HIV AIDS? So AIDS is a acquired immune deficiency syndrome. In other words, you weren't born with it, you acquired it. So at some point your immune system fell apart and HIV AIDS was caused by the HIV virus. Well, the new AIDS is caused by these COVID shots. And that's one of the big phases we're into. So, a lot of the blood clots, myocarditis, transverse myelitis, quadriplegia, a lot of that stuff's already happened. Some of them are crippled for life and some of them are dead. But now we're moving into the, an an expanding wave of cancer, autoimmune disease, latent infections resurging because of the collapsed immune system and of course, cancers. And how big this snowball goes as it keeps rolling down the mountain I couldn't tell you. But I could tell you, I in no way regret doing everything I could from the beginning to stop it. And, I'm continuing committed to that. Interviewer: Well, we need to wrap up pretty soon, but I have a personal question for you. It involves a family member. And as a preface to this, I'd like to ask you, of course, doctors and nurses in their profession are expected to keep up with all the latest vaccines themselves, right? They're expected to take whatever number of boosters that, you know, that they recommend, that that the CDC recommends. So how high are we now on the a recommended number of total vaccines for the COVID-19. Are we up to seven, ten, five? Dr. Mark Trozzi: Well, I don't know. A lot of places they've kind of cut back the mandates. Unfortunately, almost every nurse and doctor either got fake papers or got two shots and maybe some of them got lucky and got a blank or a shot that had fallen apart from being mishandled. And so right now, I don't think they're currently, it depends where you are. I don't think in Canada they're currently mandating more jabs, but that can change any day. I mean, they've clearly demonstrated that they have got their herd trained to submit to whatever they tell them. And in some places they've even institutionalized it further that the province of British Columbia passed the health professions occupation act, which became a bill, which became it like it passed into law, like more than a year ago. And, some of the essence of this is that any health professional. And that's everyone from chiropractors to doctors, nurses, physio, everyone that when the bureaucrats in the government say you take a shot, you take it. And if you don't, you're in big trouble. And if you don't give it and go along with it and you say anything against it, you will be in big trouble to the amount of hundreds of thousand dollars in loss of your career. They literally wrote that and out into the Health Professions Occupations Act. I mean, I'm putting it in very laid down to earth terms. Interviewer: And can you assume that the same thing is going on in the States? Dr. Mark Trozzi: Well, the States is an interesting place because, you know, I mean, I'm speaking to an American, so I don't want to go overboard on my knowledge of the difference of your system, but the Canadian system is based on the Westminster system of government. So it's basically just the British empire. You guys rebelled against that long ago and your states are retaining more independence. So that's why, for instance, you can have Florida where, although the, you know, the medical industrial parasites are definitely trying to stop good things from happening there, but there you actually have you know, a governor and a surgeon general who are making sense about human rights, science and freedom. But then you have, you have other States which are going the opposite way. So I think in terms of hope, the most hopeful current places for old world institutions to become legitimate again, rather than just enemies of the people that we have to somehow survive and overthrow are some of the American States and a few other special countries. Interviewer: Well, now here's the personal part. I have a nephew, let's call him Bobby, and he is just on the cusp of finishing nursing school. So I'm assuming that during his tenure at nursing school, which included an internship, of course, he's had to keep up on the vaccines. Now he's over in Seattle. So we can expect that Seattle being a progressive state, they're on board with all the measures in Washington state. I have reason to believe that he might have been somewhat damaged by the vaccines he's taken. I can't say for sure. But what would you say to a Canadian nursing student who suddenly, or not suddenly, who has come to the conclusion there might be something strange going on, and I am just about, I am on the cusp of my career, and you've just told me that you stand to lose anything by not giving the vaccine, not taking it, going against the system. What are your words to these poor people? Dr. Mark Trozzi: Well, I mean, the first is, you know, if you're going to be a legitimate nurse or doctor, you know, and we live in a time where the system is so illegitimate that we have to rethink legitimate. For instance, according to the College of Physicians Surgeons of Ontario, they've labeled me as ungovernable and stripped my license. And yet you're seeking me out as an expert on the subject, which is quite legitimate because I'm very legitimate. Right. So we live in an inverted time where you have to look at things in context. Right. Like, the you know, the people that protected Anne Frank were apparently criminals at the time, according to the government that wanted to kill Anne Frank. Right. So things when when things fall apart, you've got to find your your grounding back on the foundation of things, you know, which I think you're going to find something like natural law, morality, God, spirituality, something. You got to get some solid footing under you. Otherwise, you're going to just be whipped around by the storm and destroyed. So I think that'd be one element. Make sure you really study the science, like go back to science. The idea that the science is so complicated that in the end, you know, pass some tests, feel humble about it. In the end, just do what everyone else is doing and follow the protocols, just the diagnostic criteria treatment protocols. Don't do it. Remember your physiology, your anatomy, your biochemistry, your immunology, your like study, think about things, picture cells, picture molecules, like go back to real science when you're thinking so that you don't make stupid decisions. And then you have to be fearless. And one of the reasons for that is If we must deal with this. And I don't, it doesn't matter if it's one out of a thousand people in the world, like you and me, or if it's 10 in a thousand or a hundred and thousand, it doesn't matter. However many of us are aware of what's going on, We have to deal with this because the survival of our descendants and the survival of humanity as a free and dignified species is completely on the line. So anyone who says, well, I'm going to go along with it. Like, let's say I could have, I could have, I mean, it would so easy for me. I could even got fake papers. I could have injected people, made hundreds of thousands, maybe a million dollars while doing actually nothing sitting on my hands, you know, but If we don't fix this, everybody will lose everything. I mean, just look at their own words. You will own nothing and you will be happy. Look at what they're writing into laws. Look at, you know, in every country, look at the fact that Reiner Fuellmich is in jail and doctors are being locked up for doing the right thing. And you've got the perpetrators running around in control and loaded with money. If we don't fix this, you're going to lose everything. So you have to join the fight for the truth. How you do that, you'll have to figure it out. But if your existence is not based on truth, And that doesn't mean we're right about everything. We're learning all the time. But the pursuit of truth means you have to take responsibility for your intellectual ability and think it through. And and if it isn't based on truth and morality, well, you've missed the point of life and you're going to lose everything anyways. And you're going to be injected with poison at the same time. So there's no reason to go along with these guys. Somebody's trying to kill you and your family. Stand up and fight, period. That's my bottom line. Interviewer: Absolutely. One of the greatest injunctions is live not by lies. Dr. Mark Trozzi: Amen. Interviewer: Well, Dr. Trozzi, thank you so much for your time. We've gone over the hour, so I'm going to wrap it up here. Could you give the viewers any information they need on how to learn about you and and your websites and such? Dr. Mark Trozzi: Sure. Yeah, definitely. And I really want to, I really want to help people. That's the mission I'm on. So if you go to www.drtrozzi.news. So drtrozzi.news, you can also find it by just looking for Dr. Trozzi on Substack. Of course you can follow me on X to get little dribbles and cool things. But if you go to drtrozzi.news, drtrozzi.news, right on the front page, you're going to see an article that really is kind of laying out a lot of my main library. So if you click on that, You'll get the, we send out, people can subscribe for free or choose to donate. I send out new reports, updates on a regular basis, but right on that front page, click on the COVID timeline. You're going to open an article, which is giving you really pieces. Here's what you need to understand how it hurts you. Here's what you need to understand about why it doesn't work. Here's what you can do to deal with the toxic effects in your body and survive and thrive despite the poisoning. So, I'm really grateful for folks to come. Making my life worthwhile, making it meaningful, isn't about sending me money. It's about doing the right things, saving you and your family, and then helping the rest of us save all of us together. Interviewer: Okay, Dr. Trozzi, thank you so much for your time with us. Dr. Mark Trozzi: Thanks, Dan. It was a great pleasure. God bless.

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